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JenniferRene
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
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couldn't agree more.

Old Post Jul-12-2005 18:10  United States
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DJ-RED
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Strømmen

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Yawn. Your ignorance of the genre is rather shocking, to limit its scope to a two-year slice of European anthem trance. And none of those productions fit anywhere in the family of progressive genres, so I'm confused why you would cite that label as well.

Trance has over 13 years of history in multiple directions: German, acid, psychedelic, progressive, and on and on. Just because you think your minimal exposure to the genre is all there is, doesn't make it true. You don't have the room to speak.

And I already exempted Words, which falls outside consideration.

Old Post Jul-12-2005 18:44  Norway
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JakeC
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Birmingham

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED


not with the safety guard on you wont....

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Soonmeister
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Madchester

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If I were yooooooooou... Id get another job!!!!

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Cobalt
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well technically Words and Gamemaster are progressive trance.

Gamemaster is anthem trance, even with epic overtones, not progressive. Words has progressive influences, but is closer to anthem.

Just because Ishkur says it doesn't make it so.

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Cobalt
Trance Isn't Trance



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-RED

Go ahead, I hate kids.

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aloep
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The original mix of "Gamemaster" was classified by many as Progressive Trance when it came out 8 years ago.

However, nowadays it does sound closer to "Epic", but I certainly wouldn't call it "anthem". That term I reserve for the "hands in the air" Dutch sound of the late 90's like System F - Out Of The Blue and practically anything by Ferry Corsten of that period.

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Streamline
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Oak Ridges, ON, Canada

If you live in my area, you know anything the radio station calls trance
is cheese. *cough* Z 103.5 *cough* F*cking retards on that station!

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Cobalt
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Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by aloep
The original mix of "Gamemaster" was classified by many as Progressive Trance when it came out 8 years ago.

However, nowadays it does sound closer to "Epic", but I certainly wouldn't call it "anthem". That term I reserve for the "hands in the air" Dutch sound of the late 90's like System F - Out Of The Blue and practically anything by Ferry Corsten of that period.


I disagree. Gamemaster has little in common, with, say Calling Your Name (Original Mix) or the work of Evolution from the same period. It has a clear anthem line (progressive seldom does), and very little modulation or gradual layering as per usual for progressive trance. It's very overt in sound. Further, the lead forms an overall melody that extends for 32 bars, which is trademark epic construction. Anthems rarely exceeded 16, and were most often 8 bars. If anything, Gamemaster is epic in anthem clothing.

I would classify Out Of The Blue as Epic; clear melody of 32 bars.

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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
I would classify Out Of The Blue as Epic; clear melody of 32 bars.


hm i'm sure i count 16?

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JakeC
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Location: Birmingham

Yes its 16

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Words has progressive influences, but is closer to anthem.


D'fuck? How the hell Words is anthem is beyond me. But then, I've only heard the version on the album. How does the "Words for Love" mix differ?

And I disagree about Gamemaster. It isn't constructed in the same way as most anthem trance. There's only a single true breakdown and there's a long section in the middle that doesn't fit in with your average anthem track. There are also so many layers swirling round the lead riff doesn't sound like the centre of the track like it does on anthem tracks.


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