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Originally posted by luisjb82 If you had played football in your life, I'm rather surprised to see you saying this, Pirlo's career might have ended on that play... I played football in high school and college and I watched many broken ankles suffered after those type of tackles.

A referee has to use some sort of common sense discretion on a play, he went right away for a straight red on the second red card when a yellow could have been given out and a stern warning that next play like that you are off. He had given one already to Italy and found it convenient to pull that one out on a play that was not warranting red but yellow at best. The game is over and for all their diving I hope Italy is bounced, bunch of pretty boy cowards, Ghana and Czechs should advance in my book.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan A referee has to use some sort of common sense discretion on a play, he went right away for a straight red on the second red card when a yellow could have been given out and a stern warning that next play like that you are off. He had given one already to Italy and found it convenient to pull that one out on a play that was not warranting red but yellow at best. The game is over and for all their diving I hope Italy is bounced, bunch of pretty boy cowards, Ghana and Czechs should advance in my book.

Face it man, it was a red card. This has already been said that it will be a red card no matter what has happened in the game..

I understand you're angry though

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Originally posted by Sinus I understand you being patriotic mate, but the Mastroeni red card was a good call by the referee. Disallowing Beasley's goal was a good call as well. The referee was excellent, don't you see that only you Americans are complaining about him?

No patriotism here, I follow world football and know the U.S. game is not of world class caliber, that is obvious to anyone though. I just hate to see a ref have so much influence in a games outcome in the World Cup, especially when issues existed about him before he even took the field in prior questionable refereeing.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan he went right away for a straight red on the second red card when a yellow could have been given out

No, that tackle warranted a straight red card. I suggest you watch it again, in slow motion. I've seen red cards being dealt for far less.

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Originally posted by Sinus I understand you being patriotic mate, but the Mastroeni red card was a good call by the referee. Disallowing Beasley's goal was a good call as well. The referee was excellent, don't you see that only you Americans are complaining about him?

hey hey, im american as well.

I agree with those calls. However, it was hilarious how those italians were flopping left and right the entire game. What's even better is that czech republic and italy will murder each other in the next game for the ticket pass to the next round.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan A referee has to use some sort of common sense discretion on a play, he went right away for a straight red on the second red card when a yellow could have been given out and a stern warning that next play like that you are off. He had given one already to Italy and found it convenient to pull that one out on a play that was not warranting red but yellow at best. The game is over and for all their diving I hope Italy is bounced, bunch of pretty boy cowards, Ghana and Czechs should advance in my book.

Dude you must not know your football at all, pardon me but what you're saying makes absolutely no sense... what part of Pirlo's ankle could have broken haven't you understood?, geeez I played football and I know what I'm saying because I was on both ends, doing those type of tackles and also receiving them.

Discretion you say, take another look at the play and notice Pirlo's balance was on 1 leg, the one Mastroeni tackled... lol serious man, what are you on?

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Originally posted by luisjb82 Dude you must not know your football at all, pardon me but what you're saying makes absolutely no sense... what part of Pirlo's ankle could have broken haven't you understood?, geeez I played football and I know what I'm saying because I was on both ends, doing those type of tackles and also receiving them. Discretion you say, take another look at the play and notice Pirlo's balance was on 1 leg, the one Mastroeni tackled... lol serious man, what are you on?

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Originally posted by LittleGoku However, it was hilarious how those italians were flopping left and right the entire game.

Well, I guess you've never watched any Italy games before. They're well known around the football world for their dying swan antics.

That and the occasional elbow.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan What do you think, they fell as soon as they got touched, some were fouls but after the Czech game the U.S. actually tried to mark instead of letting guys walk to the net and have open space like Rocisky did to tee off. Much more heart in this game, too bad the Uruguayan ref was a jackass and that goes beyond the red cards. A good ref is one you never even have to talk about after the game.

i feel some frustration in your voice calvin

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan No patriotism here, I follow world football and know the U.S. game is not of world class caliber,

lol. Italy mentioned in a newspaper that they didn't recognize any of the American players on the US team except for Reyna. A worldclass team was not able to sink the US today with a 10-9 favor on the field. They obviously played with one today and today gained my respect.