Originally posted by MarkT
perhaps. McGuinty has a chance to actually DO something. Just as Danny Williams, with his ridiculous domination, now has the opportunity to DO something in NFLD. He won on the basis of standing up to the feds, but now he has to work with the feds to improve the situation of the province. That mandate will only go so far if results are not achieved.
but...the people have spoken here (cliche as that sounds). The conservatives have no one to blame but themselves. If the public are "ignorant" in handing McGuinty another majority, much of the blame has to fall at the opposition parties' failure to "educate" and appeal to voters.
it's also sad that only slightly more than half of eligible voters cast ballots. perhaps that's an indication of exasperation and voter apathy due to a lack of a good choice?
either way...if the Consvatives have half a brain, they'll ditch Tory as leader or at least completely revamp their strategy in the next election (like maybe focusing on their own platform instead of bashing the opposition). He couldn't win his own seat and his strategy (or lack thereof) was a complete disaster. McGuinty barely had to campaign at all...he essnentially coasted to not only the win, but the first consecutive majority win in what, 70 years?
pathetic on so many levels.
+1
you can't blame the public for voting the way they do .. only the poltilical parties that fail at convincing the voters to vote otherwise
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Oct-11-2007 17:57
afterhrsgurl
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
Canadians dont care about politics, this country can easily fall to bad leaders like it happened across the border.
Apart from TAs on here, many young people dont vote, or even heard of the names of the 4 main party representatives in their area.
i'm shocked at the fact that only half of those eligible actually voted..and that Tory even lost his own riding buahahaha...i thought he'd win that at least
Oct-11-2007 18:29
Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan
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Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
i'm shocked at the fact that only half of those eligible actually voted..and that Tory even lost his own riding buahahaha...i thought he'd win that at least
it wasn't his riding. he took at shot at a liberal stronghold but lost. the incumbent liberal got re elected.
Originally posted by chinamon
not true. i say "ugh"
but i am a tranny.
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Originally posted by kotsy
lol colour me retarded
Oct-11-2007 20:24
coconuticecream
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voter turn out is just sad.
people are so lazy. like how long does it really take to put a check beside a name? once every 4 years?
on another note, if say 90% of people voted and not 50% like last night the outcome would be basicaly the same.
dont be fooled.
the liberals would have still had a land slide.
remmeber, all politicans make promises, all of them lie, all of them break a promise at one time or another. that aside.
as a whole, our province and economy is doing a whole lot better than it was 4 years ago.
im glad the liberals won.
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Oct-11-2007 20:32
afterhrsgurl
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Originally posted by EvilTree
it wasn't his riding. he took at shot at a liberal stronghold but lost. the incumbent liberal got re elected.
"PC Leader John Tory suffered defeat in his own riding" (cbc.ca)
u can word it however u want
Oct-11-2007 20:33
Yohan
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Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan
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Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
"PC Leader John Tory suffered defeat in his own riding" (cbc.ca)
u can word it however u want
I believe he used to live in that riding as a kid. (So does that make it 'his riding')?
Considering that he's never been the MMP of that particular riding. (IIRC, his previous seat was somewhere else)
Originally posted by chinamon
not true. i say "ugh"
but i am a tranny.
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Originally posted by kotsy
lol colour me retarded
Oct-11-2007 20:47
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Originally posted by djeso
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it mcguinty who promised he wouldn't raise taxes, but after being elected first thing he did was raise taxes?
I agree regarding the bashing ... it's definitely not necessary
What people seem to forget is that the last PC Party left the liberals with over a 5 billion dollar debt.....the liberals had to make the hard choice to raise taxes in order to get the province back on track.
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Oct-11-2007 20:54
Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
What people seem to forget is that the last PC Party left the liberals with over a 5 billion dollar debt.....the liberals had to make the hard choice to raise taxes in order to get the province back on track.
i'm not annoyed that he raised taxes.
i'm annoyed that he got elected promising not to raise taxes, but go on to raise taxes.
Originally posted by chinamon
not true. i say "ugh"
but i am a tranny.
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Originally posted by kotsy
lol colour me retarded
Oct-11-2007 21:08
afterhrsgurl
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Originally posted by EvilTree
ohhh.... now you're trying to get under skin with your illogic
hahha u really hoped I'd say more to that...i guess i had you going hehehe
i dunno the way i view it...yes it's bad he promised one thing and ended up raising the taxes regardless...but it's just the way our system/politics work..even though presenting another tax increase sucks....being taxed pays for a certain "comfortable" life style; good healthcare etc...maybe there was an unexpected last minute cost that came up and he had no other choice but to betray his promise
Oct-11-2007 21:21
Yohan
Champion of Deep&Nu-disco
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan
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Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
hahha u really hoped I'd say more to that...i guess i had you going hehehe
i dunno the way i view it...yes it's bad he promised one thing and ended up raising the taxes regardless...but it's just the way our system/politics work..even though presenting another tax increase sucks..it gives us a certain "comfortable" life style; good healthcare etc...maybe there was an unexpected last minute cost that came up and he had no other choice but to betray his promise
i guess it's really what you want in your politicians.
i want people in leadership roles to have a decent set of integrity.
once we accept that politicians are all liars and lacks any sense of moral fibre, we accept that as the norm and quality of people we elect goes down hill. (and already has tremendously)
we should, and must hold our politicians to a higher standard.
reality is that we don't, hence why mcguinty got reelected
