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Originally posted by atbell I'll give you a simple example in the form of an experiment you can do at home. Fill you left hand with about a table spoon full of pepper, the more finely ground the better. Lift your left hand up so it is parallel with your eyes and you have a good clear, horrizontal view of the pepper. Now with your right hand above your left, about a foot or two should work, bring it down as quickly as possible on top of your left hand. Stop about half an inch before hitting your left hand. Observe what happens to the pepper. Make sure that you are quite close to the small pile and that you keep your eyes wide open because, based on you theory, there will probably be little if no horizontal movement.

We all know how things move in relation to "gravity" on this particular planet...

But who exactly is to say that anything is PULLING anything?

Why not pushing? Or something else altogether?

I believe that gravity is nothing more than magnetism.

Magnetism can not be held responsible for two people falling in love.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby We all know how things move in relation to "gravity" on this particular planet... But who exactly is to say that anything is PULLING anything? Why not pushing? Or something else altogether? I believe that gravity is nothing more than magnetism. Magnetism can not be held responsible for two people falling in love.

Actually, gravity is the one force yet to be Unified.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby I believe that gravity is nothing more than magnetism. Magnetism can not be held responsible for two people falling in love.

I couldn't help but be reminded of this.

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Originally posted by culorut You are a trooper b.s.e, hats off to you. These fella's have been at it for at least a couple of years in the original 9/11 thread and still ignore the most straight forward facts, evidence, logic and testimonies from people who where actually at ground zero.

Since we've called them out so many times, I think that they're about to regroup after setting up some new strategy.

I better watch it, though, before Krypton tells me one more time that I can't take criticism. That really hurts, you know.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN indeed, lets play a game. rather than making unsubstantiated generalisations (the mainstay of the conspiracy theorist), how about you link us to an example of a post by a regular user that you think might be a secret government asset mining our forums? in other words, put your money where your mouth is.

Reverse psychology, eh?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Reverse psychology, eh?

LMFAO

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Since we've called them out so many times, I think that they're about to regroup after setting up some new strategy. I better watch it, though, before Krypton tells me one more time that I can't take criticism. That really hurts, you know.

What have you called us out on? By all means, post it. Federal Reserve? 9/11? Let's do this. I know colorut is too much of a pussy to debate me, even when challenged. Trancer, will you take up my direct debate challenge? Post ONE point, in which you believe you have called us out on, or one point, in which you believe you are absolutely right. I will not respond to plagiarized material, so please, your own words will suffice, with of course sources to back you up. I'm ready, are you? So post that one point.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby You fail at sarcasm. Or intelligence maybe.

Don't try to seduce me.

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Originally posted by Krypton What have you called us out on? By all means, post it. Federal Reserve? 9/11? Let's do this. I know colorut is too much of a pussy to debate me, even when challenged. Trancer, will you take up my direct debate challenge? Post ONE point, in which you believe you have called us out on, or one point, in which you believe you are absolutely right. I will not respond to plagiarized material, so please, your own words will suffice, with of course sources to back you up. I'm ready, are you? So post that one point.

Hey, considering you've avoided my points on the path of least resistance, I wouldn't be calling people out. I've stated my theory, and given proof of measure. How do you respond? Since you're in such a mood to debate.

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For the the nth time.

The Conservation of Energy applies to falling bodies as well. When an object falls, it converts the potential gravitational energy (derived from its height above ground) into kinetic (speed) energy. If the object has to use some of its energy on something else, like air resistance, there will be less energy available as kinetic energy; lengthening the time it spends falling.

Let's use the example of a brick falling from the top of the tower, even just the energy required to move air out of the way is enough to slow the free fall time from 9.2 seconds to 12 seconds. The fact that the buildings were observed to fall at essentially free fall speed, means that all of the gravitational potential energy of the building was in fact converted to the kinetic energy of falling. The fall speed accounts for all of the gravitational potential energy available. There is no gravitational energy available to break steel, crush concrete, eject dust or do anything else but just fall.

So the energy that pulverised concrete and melted steel came from somewhere else. What was it? The only thing that fits the bill is explosives and thermite.


The only way for a building can fall through the path of least resistance (which it did, that's a scientific fact) is for each floor before to be removed before the floor above it connects with it; otherwise you can expect to have a delay when kinetic energy is absorbed into the mass of the subsequent floor.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Hey, considering you've avoided my points on the path of least resistance, I wouldn't be calling people out. I've stated my theory, and given proof of measure. How do you respond? Since you're in such a mood to debate.

First of all, I wasn't responding to you. Secondly, you haven't called anyone out either. If you are so right in all your assertions, then fucking file a lawsuit against someone. Get off the forum and take it to a fucking court. How I respond is with extreme skepticism, because I believe your theories are wrong, and your so-called evidence is not conclusive, nor is most of it even permissible in a court of law. It's all about the evidence, and all you have is axiomatic INDIRECT evidence. You say explosives are what caused the collapse. OK, then. Where is the explosive material evidence? Who set off the explosives? From where? Do you have any fragments of a bomb to show us? No, you don't, you don't have ANYTHING to show us. All you have is conjecture after conjecture which is nothing more than hunches to what you think happened. Show me something admissible in court, and I'll listen.

I'll debate you to the ends of the earth, unlike or resident plagiarizers colorut and trancer. You're far above them in at least engaging in a constructive debate with me, but don't fucking piss me off with this "i call you out" bullshit, because nothing you've said is conclusive. And if it is, TAKE IT THE FUCKING COURTS!!!!!!!!!!...Stop talking, start doing, send the assholes who did it to jail. Why the hell are you sitting here debating me when criminals roam free? Jeezzzzz....

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Whoa, Silver..

Well, I've explained pretty simply that the Pancake Theory does not comply with physics. That's a pretty big '', wouldn't you agree?

There are so many 'what the fucks' in the Official Story, like the omission of WTC7, or the absolution of the FBI's role in investigating Able Danger to its potential. Not to mention



brings 'horseshit' to mind. The man who flew the plane, of course, was not qualified in skills to fly a

. Starting to raise some questions in your mind yet? The little voice in the back of your head that's like, "He's right! That shit is surely horseshit!"

If not -I was prepared for that-, perhaps the facts this article provides might provoke some thought.

New Study: No Boeing 757 Hit the Pentagon
Friday, June 22nd, 2007

By Jim Fetzer

A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11. “We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building,” said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. “This new study by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American people by The 9/11 Commission”.

The new society, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) under the Freedom of Information Act and obtained its 2002 report on American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 that, according to the official account, hit the ground floor of the Pentagon after it skimmed over the lawn at 500 mph plus, taking out a series of lamp posts in the process. The pilots not only obtained the flight data but created a computer animation to demonstrate what it told them.

According to the report issued by Pilots for 9/11 Truth http://pilotsfor911truth.org, there are major differences between the official account and the flight data:

a. The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support official events.

b. All altitude data shows the aircraft at least 300 feet too high to have struck the light poles.

c. The rate of descent data is in direct conflict with the aircraft being able to impact the light poles and be captured in the Dept of Defense “5 Frames” video of an object traveling nearly parallel with the Pentagon lawn.

d. The record of data stops at least one second prior to official impact time.

e. If data trends are continued, the aircraft altitude would have been at least 100 feet too high to have hit the Pentagon.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/...e-pentagon/551/

lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies...

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