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kaniz
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Or, simply accept the fact that the band-scene and the EDM-scene are completely different when it comes to the creation, production and performance of music.

Producers generally produce tracks so that other DJ's can play out their music to clubs, and be heard by a pretty wide audience. They are not producing music to be "performed live"

Bands produce music for themselves to be performed live. They are not specifically writing tracks with the expectation / hope that another band will play it as a cover.

*(insert obligatory exceptions to the rule such as Live PAs and EDM/band cross-over acts/etc/etc)

When some band writes a song, they dont think "Geeze, I hope the rolling stones will play this at their next show!" when they submit it to a label. But, when joe-producer makes a track and submits it t M_NUS, they are probably crossing their fingers that their track will be dropped and supported by Hawtin & Co.

Sort of like composer writing music to be performed by a maestro conducting an orchestra. A producer produces tracks to be played by a DJ to be mixed in with other tracks for an audience.

The skills required to build a song vs the skills required to build a set are different. Instead of arranging the elements for a 6-8 minute song, your arranging a number of songs to build a larger work. Just because you are good at one, does not mean you will be good at the other - you have many producers that /suck/ at DJing, and you have a number of DJs that might suck at producing. Now and then, you get some that are great at both.

Producers do deserve more credit for the work that they do, but trying to equate a DJ to a cover-band is even a bigger stretch then trying to compare them to a maestro of an orchestra like I did above :P

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CODE
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ha i never said it was me :P


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ha i never said it was me :P


My guess is Circa then...which would be cool.
I guess if they can afford Coxy then Hawtin isn't far behind.

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quote:
Originally posted by kaniz
Or, simply accept the fact that the band-scene and the EDM-scene are completely different when it comes to the creation, production and performance of music.

Producers generally produce tracks so that other DJ's can play out their music to clubs, and be heard by a pretty wide audience. They are not producing music to be "performed live"

Bands produce music for themselves to be performed live. They are not specifically writing tracks with the expectation / hope that another band will play it as a cover.

*(insert obligatory exceptions to the rule such as Live PAs and EDM/band cross-over acts/etc/etc)

When some band writes a song, they dont think "Geeze, I hope the rolling stones will play this at their next show!" when they submit it to a label. But, when joe-producer makes a track and submits it t M_NUS, they are probably crossing their fingers that their track will be dropped and supported by Hawtin & Co.

Sort of like composer writing music to be performed by a maestro conducting an orchestra. A producer produces tracks to be played by a DJ to be mixed in with other tracks for an audience.

The skills required to build a song vs the skills required to build a set are different. Instead of arranging the elements for a 6-8 minute song, your arranging a number of songs to build a larger work. Just because you are good at one, does not mean you will be good at the other - you have many producers that /suck/ at DJing, and you have a number of DJs that might suck at producing. Now and then, you get some that are great at both.

Producers do deserve more credit for the work that they do, but trying to equate a DJ to a cover-band is even a bigger stretch then trying to compare them to a maestro of an orchestra like I did above :P


and all this goes back to my original point that Electronic Music is ass backwards to other types of music.


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maybe he can get misstress B. to sing for him then drop into a spastik..............LOL


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maybe he can get misstress B. to sing for him then drop into a spastik..............LOL


As long as it's not the dubfire remix!

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ohh but the dubfire would fit the best


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maybe he can get misstress B. to sing for him then drop into a spastik..............LOL


Just shoot me now if that happens.


A full on Richie night in the Ballroom...please, and thanks


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PEOPLE

HAWTPANTS IS COMING SOON.


If its going to happen this year on a weekend it will have to be either November 21-22...or December 12-13. That is unless we get a XMAS gift and its DEC 26-27.


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kaniz
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and all this goes back to my original point that Electronic Music is ass backwards to other types of music.


Or, simply different - and there isn't anything wrong with that.

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quote:
Originally posted by kaniz
Or, simply different - and there isn't anything wrong with that.


tru dat


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Has this vid been put up yet? If yes... oh well. This rocks


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