Hey Skipper... remember i said that canadians have vision but to realize it they have to go overseas because government and regulatory bodies here strangles that vision day in and day out?

I present to you exhibit A

lol. I think a lot of you are over dramatizing the canceling of this party.

Yes, it sucks that it wasn't ready to hold an event there but that doesn't mean that Toronto is a shit city.

Just because you can't have an event at an abandoned jail doesn't mean that Toronto is crap. It just means that they figured that someone thought it wasn't safe, or that something bad could happen, or that they plan to do something else with the venue. You know having a bunch of drunk/high kids isn't exactly a recipe for a safe night in a old building.

I know it sucks that it was last minute and that people put a lot of money into it but obviously this place needs more than a few thousand dollars to remodel. I am thinking millions is probably required.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Yes, it sucks that it wasn't ready to hold an event there but that doesn't mean that Toronto is a shit city. Just because you can't have an event at an abandoned jail doesn't mean that Toronto is crap.

No this alone doesnt... but combine this with the 10 million other small annoyances and restrictions and the answer is crap/shit.

As the old saying goes... Par for the course

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Originally posted by Jayx1 No this alone doesnt... but combine this with the 10 million other small annoyances and restrictions and the answer is crap/shit. As the old saying goes... Par for the course

lol. do you really think that there is a place somewhere that is perfect and doesn't have any annoyances? (i know i know Argentina is the best ever and everyone should move there)

i mean, you could just move into the forest and live alone. that wouldn't be annoying. and you could have a party anywhere. all alone.

annoyances come with living in an area with other people since people intrinsically are annoying.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess lol. do you really think that there is a place somewhere that is perfect and doesn't have any annoyances? (i know i know Argentina is the best ever and everyone should move there) i mean, you could just move into the forest and live alone. that wouldn't be annoying. and you could have a party anywhere. all alone. annoyances come with living in an area with other people since people intrinsically are annoying.

I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!

Which is EXACTLY why we need to STOP regulating every single small annoyance and accept that in a city people will create noise, pollution, and live lifestyles that dont always gel with another's lifestyle.

I have suggested the forest option for those who expect the city to be like the countryside for years now!

Thank you for understanding my position!!!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY!! Which is EXACTLY why we need to STOP regulating every single small annoyance and accept that in a city people will create noise, pollution, and live lifestyles that dont always gel with another's lifestyle. I have suggested the forest option for those who expect the city to be like the countryside for years now! Thank you for understanding my position!!!

yes. but if enough people complaining (or a few people that are really loud without opposition) that there is too much noise, too much pollution, too much traffic, then things get done about it.

i do appreciate you bringing up different concerns about the city. i know that it must annoy you that people fight you on every point. lol. just because it's you.

Not annoying at all. Really whats annoying is the need to even have the discussion in the first place.

There definately is a balance needed but i think most people can agree that the balance too far to the left these days where pretty well EVERY thing we do is regulated and restricted somehow.

Its so embedded in our psyche that a lot of people including myself when first hearing about the Don Jail parties ask "How are they getting away with that in Toronto?" or "Watch it get cancelled". And now we have the answer. I hate to be pessimistic but the patterns of this city and province speak for themselves.

Its all about intolerance. People are unwilling to tolerate that other people will make choices contrary to what they think is right. So they ask for laws up the yin yang until suddenly this ideal backfires in their face when someone else is annoyed with an aspect of their lifestyle. Then its an outrage!

This is why for example im a non smoking non pitbull owner who supports their rights. Because i also ask those people to respect mine.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Not annoying at all. Really whats annoying is the need to even have the discussion in the first place. There definately is a balance needed but i think most people can agree that the balance too far to the left these days where pretty well EVERY thing we do is regulated and restricted somehow. Its so embedded in our psyche that a lot of people including myself when first hearing about the Don Jail parties ask "How are they getting away with that in Toronto?" or "Watch it get cancelled". And now we have the answer. I hate to be pessimistic but the patterns of this city and province speak for themselves.

what scares me is that I find myself agreeing with you more and more....who knows....maybe I'll even vote Conservative next election

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced what scares me is that I find myself agreeing with you more and more....who knows....maybe I'll even vote Conservative next election

LOL! well thats because sadly things are getting way worse and out of control and people have the breaking points. Mine is just set a little lower i guess which makes me more extreme? I really hope though that people are fed up enough to vote for change at the very least.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced what scares me is that I find myself agreeing with you more and more....who knows....maybe I'll even vote Conservative next election

Everybody comes around eventually. It's just a question of when.

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2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

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Originally posted by DigiNut Everybody comes around eventually. It's just a question of when.

if harper could only take a long walk on a short pier then I could see myself voting conservative with a clear mind.

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Scott has been introduced to the rave scene, and Ecstasy, by Craig. The two of them go out on the weekends, with some of Craigs friends, and stay up all night, dancing in a drug-fueled trance.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced if harper could only take a long walk on a short pier then I could see myself voting conservative with a clear mind.

We've got you covered. I'm running for PM next election, and I'm going to appoint Jay as my Minister of Shut The Fuck Up.

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My party schedule:
2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here