I personally like house and trance in the same room (if the djs or acts are good). I like to hear different genres throughout the night. I remember when I first started raving hearing a progression of sounds throughout the night. It made things interesting and exciting.

Hearing all trance throughout the whole night is pretty boring. Hearing bad trance for just 10 minutes is even worse.

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Originally posted by Alain That's not a working option, you're missing a lot of other needed variables

is it reasonalble to think that the city would straight out say NO to having the parade/day event in the not so distant future? sounds like it was a lot more effort than in years past to get everything taken care of in 2009.

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Originally posted by Alain No we do not know there will be an event next year Trust me any possible solution you present, either we tried or it's not possible

so this is totally on a year to year basis....wow.....now i see why.....good luck in the future

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Originally posted by bigperf is it reasonalble to think that the city would straight out say NO to having the parade/day event in the not so distant future? sounds like it was a lot more effort than in years past to get everything taken care of in 2009.

I've said about 10 times on this forum and what you're not understanding is that the city isn't one entity. It's not like we ask 1 person for permission and that answer represents the whole city.

Just because the city approves the event to happen, doesn't mean the police are on board. Just because the police and city have given their okay doesn't mean the fire chief has given the okay. Now multiply this variable by 100 and maybe you'll understand what's going on.

Then factor in the possibility if by chance the fire chief decides to quit? Well guess what happens, that process has to start over again under new guidelines.

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my bad, missed that you had said on previous page that there were no guarantees for next year.

unless the city is profiting(i would assume they do otherwise why allow the event) then lets enjoy it while its here. Germany had 3 love parade cancelled since 2004.

There's never been a guarantee, pretty much when the board decides to announce the date is pretty close to when the parade and festival are green lights from all departments. Obviously this announcement has dramatically been a different date every year.

The city profiting doesn't outweigh the more important issues the city needs to deal with. Our parade and festival isn't exactly the highest execution of order on the city's to do list.

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Originally posted by bigperf my bad, missed that you had said on previous page that there were no guarantees for next year. unless the city is profiting(i would assume they do otherwise why allow the event) then lets enjoy it while its here. Germany had 3 love parade cancelled since 2004.

Love Parade Berlin gets cancelled because they can't cover costs and all that since the city makes them pay for everything including cleanup these days. I think they said cleanup costs them nearly $500,000 US the first year it was cancelled. They got corporate sponsorship for a couple years there and all but when they can't it just gets cancelled again.

Heck, it wasn't in in Berlin in 2007 and 2008. It was in Essen in 2007 and then in Dortmund last year.

Hopefully people understand why the organizers of LE are requiring $10 for entry this time around...cause it's prob either they do that or cancel the event, and we all don't want that to happen!

I want to see semis in this year parade be using water-cooled sound systems like LP in Germany does.

i hope the lineup for the parade and ALL of the afterparties can bring enough people to the city to make this possible next year!
I could see it getting canceled by the city just becaue someone doesnt believe in it. That would be sad.

Anyone know the Time Slots for the After Party or the Float?

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Originally posted by DaveT Love Parade Berlin gets cancelled because they can't cover costs and all that since the city makes them pay for everything including cleanup these days. I think they said cleanup costs them nearly $500,000 US the first year it was cancelled. They got corporate sponsorship for a couple years there and all but when they can't it just gets cancelled again. Heck, it wasn't in in Berlin in 2007 and 2008. It was in Essen in 2007 and then in Dortmund last year. Hopefully people understand why the organizers of LE are requiring $10 for entry this time around...cause it's prob either they do that or cancel the event, and we all don't want that to happen! I want to see semis in this year parade be using water-cooled sound systems like LP in Germany does.

Yeah, it's really hard for me to fathom...I was there in the middle of 1.2 million people at Love Parade Berlin in 2006, and it seemed like a phenomenal success, like it was back for good. In Germany, the organizers insisted that the parade (and daytime festival, as it's one and the same) be free for everyone.

If each person had contributed one Euro, then there would have been 1.2 million Euros for cleanup and then some. Of course, it was also very political...from what I understand many businesses and residents did not like the Love Parade due to traffic, congestion, and I'm sure many other reasons. So the organizers sucked it out of Berlin and moved up north to different cities through 2011, and now Berlin loses millions of tourism dollars as a result. It went on successfully for a couple more years, but the city of Bochum didn't think it could handle the crowd, so it was canceled for 2009 even as there was record attendance of 1.6 million just the year before in Dortmund.

So it is a delicate balance between the city, its people, businesses and success can feed failure. That's why I think it's important for everyone to do their part to make sure LovEvolution continues to be a success...simple stuff like use the trash cans, be nice to everyone, know when to say when, etc. ...I'm sure the vast majority of us are already on board.

It's also worthwhile pointing out the many benefits of LovEvolution in terms of tourism, city image, etc. Many businesses welcome those visiting LovEvolution with open arms since the people are friendly and fun to be around. I often book 2-3 hotel rooms there each year between me and my friends, do some sightseeing, shopping, and dining in addition to the parade, festival and afterparty. To me, it's a win-win combination that makes perfect sense, and I'd like to think that LovEvolution is here to stay!

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