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Nrg2Nfinit
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whats funnier is some of the video responses of people who think they know what evolution is but are misinformed lol.

I think this is also a reason why people divert to intelligent design

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Energy_3
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I dont want to hear conspiracy theory bullshit lol.

save it for buzz aldrin



ah come on, you never know


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Nrg2Nfinit
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refer to the principle of parsimony

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Oh dear......


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Krypton
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Evolution is a religion because Evolutionists revere Charles Darwin as something of a prophet. Evolutionists worship the creation instead of the creator. Any alternative views such as intelligent design are rejected out of hand because they don't adhere to a naturalist dogma.


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Nrg2Nfinit
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Evolution is a religion because Evolutionists revere Charles Darwin as something of a prophet. Evolutionists worship the creation instead of the creator. Any alternative views such as intelligent design are rejected out of hand because they don't adhere to a naturalist dogma.


evolution is a scientific theory. The most plausible theory for the progression of organisms. This is analogous with kinematic equations of newton as they describe movement with respect to time. New theories appear and are corrected frequently. Although newton's kinematic equations are faulty, they are still taught, used and are approximations (as we now know that time is relative to the speed of light).

There is no better explanation for the origin of species and progression of organisms so we trust in the theory of evolution for classification, genetics and medical advancements such as antibiotics.

If there can be some scientific proclaim to intelligent design, perhaps it can be adhered to and in a sense be challenged against the evolution theory. Until this point one should not jump to any conclusion of myth without some sort of empirical evidence to justify. This is not the definition of science.

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Dj Skez
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^^ WOAH, I'm impressed with your intelligence, Allah smiled upon you.

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Nrg2Nfinit
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^^ WOAH, I'm impressed with your intelligence, Allah smiled upon you.


well its ramadan and im a bit hungover this morning.. that smile has turned into a frown my friend..


lol

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Dj Skez
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well its ramadan and im a bit hungover this morning.. that smile has turned into a frown my friend..


lol


You know what's interesting, it's called Ramazan and not ramadan in my country and instead of "id" it's called "bajram" by the muslims in former yugoslavia. Just a little knowledge I'm sure you can squeeze in your noggin you smart bastard.

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evolution is a scientific theory. The most plausible theory for the progression of organisms. This is analogous with kinematic equations of newton as they describe movement with respect to time. New theories appear and are corrected frequently. Although newton's kinematic equations are faulty, they are still taught, used and are approximations (as we now know that time is relative to the speed of light).


Nobody denies that microevolution occurs.

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There is no better explanation for the origin of species and progression of organisms so we trust in the theory of evolution for classification, genetics and medical advancements such as antibiotics.


There is the explanation of design for the origin of species. As for the progression of organisms, they adapt, but fish don't become non-fish, and dogs don't become non-dogs.

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If there can be some scientific proclaim to intelligent design, perhaps it can be adhered to and in a sense be challenged against the evolution theory. Until this point one should not jump to any conclusion of myth without some sort of empirical evidence to justify. This is not the definition of science.


The problem is, whatever ID has to offer, is rejected out of hand by the naturalist controlled publications and schools.


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Nrg2Nfinit
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Nobody denies that microevolution occurs.



There is the explanation of design for the origin of species. As for the progression of organisms, they adapt, but fish don't become non-fish, and dogs don't become non-dogs.



The problem is, whatever ID has to offer, is rejected out of hand by the naturalist controlled publications and schools.


What is your perspective? what is the ID perspective?

Are you old world or new world creationists?

how do you define a fish between a nonfish?

what about organisms that are inbetween such as the lungfish?

Do smaller fish evolve into bigger or different types of fish?

What is the consensus with ID and organism progression?

Classification of organisms is simply semantics and an organizational system to attempt to differentiate. It is not meant to be a limiting factor intended to completely isolate organisms from one another without an inference of common descent. This is why we have phylogenetics and taxonomic systems, to create realtionships.

The naturalists reject ID since there is no consensus in the ID community on a standard theory. Furthermore, any theory that they may postulate has no testible proof. There is no one out there hindering the ID community in conducting tests and experiementation for their ideologies. The facts are that there are no facts to support their soluble ideas.

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What are creationists view on carbon dating?


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