I agree, VEC Percs are loud and harsh. Thats why i don't use them.

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Originally posted by Zild Jomox Xbase Jomox Mbase Vermona DRM Roland TR909 etc...

I have to try one of those to see for myself.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles VEC kicks have lots of noise and distortion which makes them sound louder. Most of their samples are just ripped from other people's records anyway and then processed, right? Personally I find a lot of VEC percs to be harsh on my ears, but that crunchy noisy sound seems to be what's in for trance these days.

The Vengeance Club kicks are horrible, however i find the kicks from the House series to be much more usable.

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd i tried synthesizing my own kicks and also tried many drum synth presets and none come some what close to the hardness of a VEC Bassdrum. If someone knows a synth thats capable of replicating this, then tell me!

dont you own a virus if so select it remove all precomputed effects so that its as plane and dry as you can muster then find ways of making the kick as dry as you can ie remove res,filters and anything that will make it wet. try and find ways of opening the kick sound and pin pointing the deapist area.

once you have found the part of the kick you like then zone in on it as much as you can. select eq and move all parameters to that area.

try not to make the kick sit to low in the mix or to high find ways of using mid notes. and take it from their.

Last edited by owien on Sep-11-2009 at 19:48

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Originally posted by owien and i wonder why

Because it wasn't?

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Originally posted by Subtle ...i find the kicks from the House series to be much more usable.

+1

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Originally posted by Subtle We all respect and have no problem with that, but you are saying that this is the only way to make "your own" sound. If you think thats how your favorite artists do it, then you need to do more research.

other then good and clever arrangement i cant see how a producer hopes on having their own sound if the dont stop and try to create it.


and i see now why people here think i'm coming of as being better then they are and throwing the fact that i can co create my own shit.
its a gift i guess thats taken a long time to do and i am more then happey to help people out if the so wish.

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Originally posted by owien its a gift i guess thts taken a long time to do and i am more then happey to help people out if the so wish.

Show us what you've created and maybe some people will take you up on that offer.

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Originally posted by owien dont you own a virus if so select it remove all precomputed effects so that its as plane and dry as you can muster then find ways of making the kick as dry as you can ie remove res,filters and anything that will make it wet. try and find ways of opening the kick sound and pin pointing the deapist area. once you have found the part of the kick you like then zone in on it as much as you can. select eq and move all parameters to that area. try not to make the kick sit to low in the mix or to high find ways of using mid notes. and take it from their.

alright thanks, we'll see

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Originally posted by cryophonik Show us what you've created and maybe some people will take you up on that offer.

i'm stayin at my parents so i will post up some of my shit when i get back to my own home

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Originally posted by owien dont you own a virus if so select it remove all precomputed effects so that its as plane and dry as you can muster then find ways of making the kick as dry as you can ie remove res,filters and anything that will make it wet. try and find ways of opening the kick sound and pin pointing the deapist area. once you have found the part of the kick you like then zone in on it as much as you can. select eq and move all parameters to that area. try not to make the kick sit to low in the mix or to high find ways of using mid notes. and take it from their.

Why would he want to follow your directions and enjoy the fruits of your work? He should design his OWN kick drum! How can he, as a producer, hope to ever have his own sound if he follows your directions?

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Originally posted by david.michael Why would he want to follow your directions and enjoy the fruits of your work? He should design his OWN kick drum! How can he, as a producer, hope to ever have his own sound if he follows your directions?

becaue i have given him the spoon and now its up him to use it nice try tho

and i bet once he understands how to make it he will want to learn more!