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jester
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: The End of Elsewhere by Taras Grescoe

The Laurier-Sainte Marie riding here in Montreal, where (Bloc) G.D sits, is currently losing to the NDP


24.3% of the Quebec votes for the Bloc, it makes up for 5.9% of the votes in total for the whole election. So doing some shady math, Quebec votes equal almost 25% of the votes for Canada.

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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan

quote:
Originally posted by jester
The Laurier-Sainte Marie riding here in Montreal, where (Bloc) G.D sits, is currently losing to the NDP


24.3% of the Quebec votes for the Bloc, it makes up for 5.9% of the votes in total for the whole election. So doing some shady math, Quebec votes equal almost 25% of the votes for Canada.

it's part of Canadian constitution that Quebec gets 25% of parliament seats, to ensure that they don't get overwhelmed by anglophones in the Commons

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Fisco
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Registered: Apr 2011
Location: Here and There

Most recent predictions

Conservative Party - 119 seats
Liberal Party - 57 seats
N.D.P. - 33 seats
Bloc Quebecois - 38 seats
Too Close - 60 seats

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jester
[enigma within a enigma]



Registered: Oct 2003
Location: The End of Elsewhere by Taras Grescoe

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
it's part of Canadian constitution that Quebec gets 25% of parliament seats, to ensure that they don't get overwhelmed by anglophones in the Commons


Sort of knew that, I didn't really want to go back into my head and remember my Grade 10 Canadian history and politics lol

Let it be Monday already!

The Liberals need to lose more seats and the NDP needs to gain more. Would be interesting if the Green Party would get 1 seat though.

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tvmann
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: near Vancouver, Canada

All the leftish parties (Lib, NDP, Green) should have merged long ago to form an effective opposition to the Conservatives. Divided they fall. Our first-past-the-post voting system weakens the smaller parties and gives an unfair advantage to the biggest party.

That Amp Your Vote site (strategic voting) caused me to switch from Lib to NDP, since the NDP candidate here is the best shot against the Conservatives.
http://www.projectdemocracy.ca/

Locally here in backwater BC I'm in the bible belt, dominated by Mennonites and Dutch, an extreme version of the Ontario K-W area. Virtually all area politicians make it clear they are from the same ethnic-religious group, because that makes them appear more "trustworthy" to the large numbers who are from the same group.

Our local Conservative MP Chuck Strahl is retiring and his son will be taking over, like it's a family business. These guys will make far more money as MPs than they could ever make with a regular job.

The son Mark Strahl has a high school education, has never had a real job outside of helping out in area politician's offices, and is virtually guaranteed to be the new MP. His nomination reeks of nepotism. The candidate to replace retiring Stockwell Day also got nominated in what appears to be another fast-tracked insider deal.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/04/20/...heir-friends-2/
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jester
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Registered: Oct 2003
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Michael Ignatieff insists he is still in the race and believes Canadians will elect his party to form the government on Monday. But if they don’t, he suggested Wednesday that he hasn’t shut the door on leading an effort to unite the country’s centre-left.

“Once we have an election result, I’d deal with that eventuality when it arises,” he told reporters, after a town-hall meeting with high school students in Sault Ste. Marie., Ont. “It’s very clear to me is that what is happening in the country is that two-thirds of the country wants to get rid of Stephen Harper and so we will await the result of the people.”

Liberal Sen. Larry Campbell told Postmedia News on Tuesday that if Harper were returned to power on May 2, it could be time to discuss merging the NDP and the Liberals.

“I think this realization is coming along (to) lots of parties,” he said. “At the end of the day, I think if you take the Liberals and NDP, and took a look at their major points, there is a lot of agreement there.”

Ignatieff also told reporters Wednesday he sees common sets of values between both parties.

“We have certain values that we have always shared and we’ve shared for 60 years,” the Liberal leader said.

“We share objectives with the NDP — but for heaven’s sake, contrast this,” he said, holding his family-pack platform. “And what Mr. (Jack) Layton is trying to offer to the Canadian people . . . is not credible.”
Ignatieff criticized the national media for starting to write him out of the race after a week of polls — from Angus Reid, EKOS, Nanos and Ipsos Reid —have all shown the NDP vaulting into second place. He insisted he’s still very much in the race.

“This thing is not over,” Mr. Ignatieff said. “You guys are walking around as if it (is). We are in the middle of the third period here. And I am absolutely convinced that Canadians are going to wake up on the second of May and think, ‘Wow. We need a government here. We need people who can get the deficit (under) control, who can make promises they can keep.’”

For his part, Mr. Layton said he wasn’t currently interested in discussion on post-May 2 events.
“Our focus right now is on the election and giving Canadians a choice. That’s what our focus will remain right through Election Day,” NDP spokesman Karl Belanger said. “You can trust Jack Layton to work with whoever is elected to Parliament to get results for Canadian families.”

Mr. Ignatieff will add some star power to his campaign Wednesday evening when former Liberal prime minister Jean Chretien will be at his side to give a speech at a rally in Liberal incumbent Ken Dryden’s Toronto-area riding of York Centre.

“Jean Chretien will say, what we know he’ll say . . . ‘I led three majority governments. I got the public finances of our country back in order. I dug us out of the Mulroney hole and Michael Ignatieff will dig us out of the Harper hole.’ That’s what he is going to say,” Mr. Ignatieff told reporters.

Mr. Chretien, however, was faced at the time with a divided opposition, two parties on the right of the political spectrum: A small Progressive Conservative party and a hugely popular Reform party, which later became the Canadian Alliance party.

That split votes among right and right-of-centre supporters and allowed Mr. Chretien’s Liberals to hold onto power.

Now, it’s Mr. Harper who is facing a divided opposition on the left.


(Courtesy of the National Post)

If the NDP-Liberals merge good for them, as long as Iggy not part of it. Plus they better call it the NDP and not the Liberals though.

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kamil
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Anyone that votes conservative is an idiot.


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
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Anyone that votes NDP is an idiot.


Fixed


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Everything in this country is illegal.

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
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I have to ask those who would vote NDP and to a lessor extent Liberals a serious question.

Where do you think money comes from?


How do you think a nation's wealth is created?


Are public sector jobs ultimately good for the economy or bad?



Answer these seriously.


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Shaya007
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quote:
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Fixed


easy there F-35


LOL!


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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
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quote:
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easy there F-35


LOL!


at least we wont get kicked out of NATO and really have to fend for ourselves


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Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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get kicked out of NATO


I think I'd be ok with that...

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