Flat 6 - It's too late
Alex D'elia vs Ebop allstars - Isn't life wonderful (Flat 6 remix)
Mo & Marc de Clarq - Electric
GPA - Velvet voodoo (Praha mix)
Schiller - Ruhe (Humate mix)
Taiko - Silence
Loafer - Travelogue (Blackwatch mix)
Atlantis ITA - See you in the next life (Push mix)

This list could go on for some time.....

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Originally posted by robootz Absolutely, one of my alltime favourites too.. I also think Cloud 69 - Sixty Nine Ways deserves more hype.. that tune is in my top 5 ever for sure

Sixty nine ways is straight up amazing.

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Originally posted by Chimney Listening to trance since the early 90s and apparently you're still stuck on the A state of Trash level. Paul van Dyk - Movement is seriously underrated.

That I recommend someone listing to A.S.O.T. doesn't mean that the rest is less at all. I like PvD too, but you simply cannot listen everything. So A.S.O.T. IMO is not bad if that's the sort of trance you like. I guess "clubamerica" has taste similar to mine so why not suggest listening to A.S.O.T.?

Also strange that so many DJ's with age between 30-40, (like me) also still are "stuck"......

Like I said, many over here have different opinions, which is fine, but some also think they are the grandmasters of trance....

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Originally posted by Trance-MB That I recommend someone listing to A.S.O.T. doesn't mean that the rest is less at all. I like PvD too, but you simply cannot listen everything. So A.S.O.T. IMO is not bad if that's the sort of trance you like. I guess "clubamerica" has taste similar to mine so why not suggest listening to A.S.O.T.? Also strange that so many DJ's with age between 30-40, (like me) also still are "stuck"...... Like I said, many over here have different opinions, which is fine, but some also think they are the grandmasters of trance....

Are stuck to what? Armin is a damn hypocrite and there is a simple explanation to why. I remember a couple of years back when he said "Cascada is not trance" however he doesn't look on what himself has become now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjBZzN_Fzk)

Tiesto, Armin & the "grand masters" of trance made this a mainstream genré especially when the whole scene now is strangeholded by the balls by such companies like Armada and Blackhole Recordings. If you want to become famous, you need to sell your track to them so that mr Tijs can spin it on Ibiza and get blown by 3 mui caliente chickas afterwards, while you, the producer sit around at home staring on the wall.

Too many people get into a genré that not only has been exploited to the maximum, but a genré which was meant to be representing an underground scene.

The reason that Armin & Tijs have started cheese and remixing pop/rnB/[insert random shit track here] is that the scene is growing so fast and so many producers are making good tracks, that for them to keep their dominance over the scene, they need to be out of the ordinary.

You call them grand-masters, I call them grand BUSINESSMEN.


When I first came here I was just like you a "omfg armin" fan-boy going around here and there, but thanks to these forums I received new input on tracks, styles and what trance really was meant to be. I just hope you do the same.

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Originally posted by Chimney Are stuck to what? Armin is a damn hypocrite and there is a simple explanation to why. I remember a couple of years back when he said "Cascada is not trance" however he doesn't look on what himself has become now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjBZzN_Fzk) Tiesto, Armin & the "grand masters" of trance made this a mainstream genré especially when the whole scene now is strangeholded by the balls by such companies like Armada and Blackhole Recordings. If you want to become famous, you need to sell your track to them so that mr Tijs can spin it on Ibiza and get blown by 3 mui caliente chickas afterwards, while you, the producer sit around at home staring on the wall. Too many people get into a genré that not only has been exploited to the maximum, but a genré which was meant to be representing an underground scene. The reason that Armin & Tijs have started cheese and remixing pop/rnB/[insert random shit track here] is that the scene is growing so fast and so many producers are making good tracks, that for them to keep their dominance over the scene, they need to be out of the ordinary. You call them grand-masters, I call them grand BUSINESSMEN.

Ehhmmm, with grandmasters I didn't mean Armin, Tiesto or PvD, but some people over here.....

I guess I like 20% of A.S.O.T. a lot, 60% is nothing special but nice to listen to and 20% I don't like. But for a 2 hour show every week listening a couple of new tracks I really like, is worth listing to me.

I don't blame Armin, Tijs, Ferry and Paul for being there at the right time, with the right music and the right approach to become famous and have that much influence. You can call them grand Businessmen, because they are, but on the other hand they didn't change my personal taste through the last 20 years.
For me it started with synthesizer tracks and the 'cheesy' trance to me still has much in common with that.

Also I don't give a shit what they say, but that goes for all DJ's, I like what they play or I don't.

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Originally posted by Chimney Are stuck to what? Armin is a damn hypocrite and there is a simple explanation to why. I remember a couple of years back when he said "Cascada is not trance" however he doesn't look on what himself has become now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjBZzN_Fzk) Tiesto, Armin & the "grand masters" of trance made this a mainstream genré especially when the whole scene now is strangeholded by the balls by such companies like Armada and Blackhole Recordings. If you want to become famous, you need to sell your track to them so that mr Tijs can spin it on Ibiza and get blown by 3 mui caliente chickas afterwards, while you, the producer sit around at home staring on the wall. Too many people get into a genré that not only has been exploited to the maximum, but a genré which was meant to be representing an underground scene. The reason that Armin & Tijs have started cheese and remixing pop/rnB/[insert random shit track here] is that the scene is growing so fast and so many producers are making good tracks, that for them to keep their dominance over the scene, they need to be out of the ordinary. You call them grand-masters, I call them grand BUSINESSMEN. When I first came here I was just like you a "omfg armin" fan-boy going around here and there, but thanks to these forums I received new input on tracks, styles and what trance really was meant to be. I just hope you do the same.

Wow, that didn't need an alt account, it was the most truthful post on the board for ages.

In my best dutch accent, what they call it is "professionality" - they took the opportunity to create a product and brought a totally different methodology to the table with how to professionally sell themselves to a wider audience.

Sad but true (for fans of when they were rocking the show on talent alone without all the fireworks).

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! In my best dutch accent, what they call it is "professionality" - they took the opportunity to create a product and brought a totally different methodology to the table with how to professionally sell themselves to a wider audience. Sad but true (for fans of when they were rocking the show on talent alone without all the fireworks).

I agree Boogie, exactly the same thing is happening now with violist Andre Rieu and his orchestra.

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randy katana-in silence (txitxarro remix)
alpha breed-beyond the moon (freejack energy mix)

albion-air also does it for me

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Originally posted by diffusion Way Out West - Stealth <- the original, no fucking breaks(that's okay, but not in this tune)

I've never been able to find the original mix

i dont see why everyone hate's a dj when they become bigger. it happens in every musical genre as well. people are always furious when an artist begins stepping outside their alleged circle. and as for big artists remixing main stream music, that's been going on for years. you were probably just too young or not educated enough at the time to realize it.

fact of the matter is if having a major following is going to change an artist, and all they can do is choose to adapt. the artists that don't adapt are the ones you no longer care about.

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Trance Around the World by Above & Beyond gets my vote. I'm never disappointed.

Lustral - When My Satellite Falls Down (Terry Bones Dub)

And I'd say anything by Manuel le Saux. I never see his name around...

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