Well, I'm glad that the ladies of TA agree that guys shouldn't be expected to foot the bill.

But let's remember, the ladies of TA seem to be (mildly ) sane compared to the "little princesses" that comprise most of this city.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Well, I'm glad that the ladies of TA agree that guys shouldn't be expected to foot the bill. But let's remember, the ladies of TA seem to be (mildly ) sane compared to the "little princesses" that comprise most of this city.

Yeah, I have some snobby-rich bitch girls who are high school friends, I feel sorry for the guys that try to go for them, or out with them.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Well, I'm glad that the ladies of TA agree that guys shouldn't be expected to foot the bill. But let's remember, the ladies of TA seem to be (mildly ) sane compared to the "little princesses" that comprise most of this city.

One by one, I leave them with a rude awakening and a spinning head. Consider me a civil servant.

I have a few of those little princesses working for me as well. Good workers but ive had to put an end to some of their bossiness when it comes to the male employees of the store.

Why are guys such pussies these days? If i were them and some co-worker bitch started with me id put her right back in her place. I'm serious when i say that the problem starts with pussy emasculated canadian men.

Boys vs. Girls

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Originally posted by psychosomatica Boys vs. Girls

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There is still like 5 different conversations going on here. This could have been 5 different threads. And they say that we are just making useless threads, we are saving room here.

I just had a great thought tho.

All this paying for dinner and having split it is boiled down to sex.

1. Guys will pay for the dinner if they like the girl but are not sure if the feelings are returned and want to sleep with her at some later time.

2. A girl will offer to split the bill if she doesn't want to sleep with the guy because she knows about 1. and if she lets him pay that means he will think his advance was accepted. Golddigging girls will always accept because they hate men and love money.

2a. As a side note, a girl will flirtingly play hard to get and offer to pay the bill but now the guy may have to read body language and other cues to find out if the girl likes him.

3. Girls will pay for a dinner if they like the guy but are not sure of his feelings towards her and she wants to sleep with him at some later time.

4. Repeat if 2. but reversed.

5. Guys want sex a lot more often than girls, with many different girls. (evolution wise, the man wants to mate with as many females as possible). This means that they pay for dinner a lot more often.

Therefore if someone wants to pay for you, they want to sleep with you and if you refuse, you refuse their advance and the problem of not knowing who likes who is solved.

Richer people sleep with a lot more people because they are able to try this out a lot more often. ie. take more dates out and foot the bill.

Better looking people get to go out on more dates (and usually get them paid for) because a lot more persons of the opposite sex want to sleep with them.

(This applies to casual dating when you only go on one or two dates, long term relationships obviously follow different rules)

above theory may only work in north america....


I'll add another theory. Rich and good looking people may still not get to "test" this out because they have morals and beliefs that money shouldnt be what buys company.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I'll add another theory. Rich and good looking people may still not get to "test" this out because they have morals and beliefs that money shouldnt be what buys company.

but we are not talking huge amounts of money here. it's only dinner. obviously there are rich people that will offer extravagant gifts but it works the same way, don't accept the gift if you don't want to sleep with the person.

north america and europe, at least western europe.

in other countries, buying dinner is exchanged for other things that couples do together and get each other.

Guys! I didn't think this would drag so much!

Regardless of stats, articles, opinions, experts- it is impossible to generalize. It is true that there still remains to be inequalities in the workplace, but in individual domains or companies; you certainly can't generalize.

For example, I work in a very male driven industry. On occasion, I meet another woman. And it's great when I do! It's extremely rare that I have been subject to discrimination, unfair treatment. In fact, I can only recall one such occasion, when I first moved to Toronto, and was looking for work.

I feel we have come to a time when these inequalities of salary, or workplace behaviour must be deemed on an individual basis. If one doesn't define their beliefs, or behaviour in context with the battle of the sexes, then it usually doesn't become an issue. Personally, in eight years in my domain, and working predominantly with men, I have yet to draw on the distinctions between our sexes, and I have had many amazing work experiences.

...Perhaps that may have not been the case if I wanted to be a DOP

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Originally posted by DigitalMP It works both ways. I've had girls come up to me at clubs or in coffee shops, say hi, ask me out, and take me to dinner and out for drinks. Sure, I offered to pay, but when she insisted after the first attempt, since she asked me out, I told her, fine...as long as the next date's on me. I don't necessarily think she should pay because she asked me out, but she's obviously a bit more liberated than other girls...I like that. It's also a good sing that later on, if we stick together for a few dates, that I won't have to make the first move when it comes to sex. That gets annoying. It's also worked the other way too. With remants of chivalry still floating around in the world, I wouldn't EXPECT a girl to try to pay on the first date, but she should on the second...if not, it's the last.

I think you make a good point about the INTENT to pay... she should at some point at least make an effort to pay... of course I end up paying ("Don't worry about it babe, I got it. ") which makes me look that much beter.

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So if a guy offers to pay then it means he wants to sleep with you in a future date...

But if a girl offers to pay...then it's a whole different story???

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