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jfk-pilot
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Apr-25-2008 04:09
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Domesticated
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freeflyer14
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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| quote: | Originally posted by Protege
Quick question for the pilots: Do you guys hate the controllers as much as they hate you? |
No, and what's to say they hate us? I am friends with a few controllers, and while we sometimes will give each other a little crap about each other's jobs, we respect each other's profession for the work involved. I know they wouldn't want to be in my position when I am on an arrival going through mod to severe precipitation dodging cells left and right and getting the crap kicked out of me, and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes working ORD approach on a friday at 6pm dealing with the airline's wonderful scheduling that puts too many airplanes in too little sky. They have been victims to the government's (FAA) ineptness at future planning - they are short-staffed, overworked, underpaid, and over-stressed, and with the vast majority of the workforce nearing retirement age, it will get worse before it gets better.
Prior to 9/11, ATC'ers could ride in the cockpit of airliners. This was a wonderful program, which gave them the opportunity to see how the system works from our (airline pilots) end. It also gave us to oppurtunity to ask "why did we just get assigned this instead of that?" This program was terminated in the government's knee jerk reaction to 9/11, but is something that could again be mutually beneficial to both sides, as it creates a respect for each person's job and shares a wealth of knowledge. It is a rare, and I mean very rare, occurrence that I will get upset with a controller over something, I believe it would be even more infrequent if this program were still around.
oh yeah....
Whats the difference between a pilot and a controller? If a controller screws up, I die. If I screw up, I die. 
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Apr-25-2008 13:48
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Protege
Just like perfection

Registered: Apr 2003
Location: East Bay
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| quote: | Originally posted by freeflyer14
No, and what's to say they hate us? I am friends with a few controllers, and while we sometimes will give each other a little crap about each other's jobs, we respect each other's profession for the work involved. I know they wouldn't want to be in my position when I am on an arrival going through mod to severe precipitation dodging cells left and right and getting the crap kicked out of me, and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes working ORD approach on a friday at 6pm dealing with the airline's wonderful scheduling that puts too many airplanes in too little sky. They have been victims to the government's (FAA) ineptness at future planning - they are short-staffed, overworked, underpaid, and over-stressed, and with the vast majority of the workforce nearing retirement age, it will get worse before it gets better.
Prior to 9/11, ATC'ers could ride in the cockpit of airliners. This was a wonderful program, which gave them the opportunity to see how the system works from our (airline pilots) end. It also gave us to oppurtunity to ask "why did we just get assigned this instead of that?" This program was terminated in the government's knee jerk reaction to 9/11, but is something that could again be mutually beneficial to both sides, as it creates a respect for each person's job and shares a wealth of knowledge. It is a rare, and I mean very rare, occurrence that I will get upset with a controller over something, I believe it would be even more infrequent if this program were still around.
oh yeah....
Whats the difference between a pilot and a controller? If a controller screws up, I die. If I screw up, I die. |
Actually, some controllers hate like everyone. But we dont really hate you guys (obviously we would have no job if you didnt fly). Sometimes it just takes a lot of patience to work with pilots. And yeah we are sometimes overworked and definitely underpaid.
I wish that kind of program was still around, I would love to know what goes on in the cockpit while we are talking to them. Not to mention flying around for free. 
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Apr-25-2008 17:43
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