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Originally posted by Krypton Again, show us the missile fragments. Show us the bomb fragments from the WTC. Who fired the missiles? Who set off the bombs? From where did the explosives come from? Where was the missile launched from? If you have so much evidence, again, take it to court, file a lawsuit. WTF are you doing here talking to me? You've got criminals to catch......honestly man, take it to the courts.

I see; you'll debate me until the ends of the Earth, yet when confronted with facts you respond with doublespeak. You're asking pointless questions that aren't very relevant to the case being presented. I'm giving you cause for more than reasonable doubt on the Official Story.

Telling me to take it to court is rather irrelevant as well.. This is a debate within a forum for our own interests and I believe the best way to act is to inform the public.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} I see; you'll debate me until the ends of the Earth, yet when confronted with facts you respond with doublespeak. You're asking pointless questions that aren't very relevant to the case being presented. I'm giving you cause for more than reasonable doubt on the Official Story. Telling me to take it to court is rather irrelevant as well.. This is a debate within a forum for our own interests and I believe the best way to act is to inform the public.

Exactly. You have no direct evidence. Nothing you can take to a court of law and prosecute whoever is responsible for this grand conspiracy you believe in so much. When you can't answer the questions, it's somehow my fault, huh? I tell you to take it to court, because if you have this solid case, then you should have no problem with bringing those responsible to justice.

Here is your dilema...

1. You have no direct evidence. No bomb fragments, no missile fragments, etc.

2. You have no prime suspects. You don't know who fired the missiles or set the bombs; who ordered the "false flag operation", or even the order itself (memo, email, etc.). You have built this case for conspiracy, yet you don't know who is responsible, who to prosecute.

Now, if you believe you can prove without a shadow of a doubt, that the government, or a faction within the government, is responsible for carrying out a false flag operation, then you should have no trouble bringing those people to justice, and you'll be famous for doing so.

If you can prosecute those responsible, trust me, the public will certainly pay attention. Propagandizing these conspiracy theories in a forum is a complete waste of yours and my time. Again, if your case is so strong, take it to court. Fuck those who fucked us over...

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Originally posted by Krypton Exactly. You have no direct evidence. Nothing you can take to a court of law and prosecute whoever is responsible for this grand conspiracy you believe in so much. When you can't answer the questions, it's somehow my fault, huh? I tell you to take it to court, because if you have this solid case, then you should have no problem with bringing those responsible to justice. Here is your dilema... 1. You have no direct evidence. No bomb fragments, no missile fragments, etc. 2. You have no prime suspects. You don't know who fired the missiles or set the bombs; who ordered the "false flag operation", or even the order itself (memo, email, etc.). You have built this case for conspiracy, yet you don't know who is responsible, who to prosecute. Now, if you believe you can prove without a shadow of a doubt, that the government, or a faction within the government, is responsible for carrying out a false flag operation, then you should have no trouble bringing those people to justice, and you'll be famous for doing so. If you can prosecute those responsible, trust me, the public will certainly pay attention. Propagandizing these conspiracy theories in a forum is a complete waste of yours and my time. Again, if your case is so strong, take it to court. Fuck those who fucked us over...

lol. Maybe I will, Milhouse, maybe I will...

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Pandora's Black Box.

From the video description..
first full documentary based on the American 77 Flight Data Recorder as provided by the NTSB


At 39 minutes the data from the black box (recovered under the Freedom of Information Act) is compared the Commission's farce, inverted story.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} lol. Maybe I will, Milhouse, maybe I will...

Seriously man. If you believe 100% in this case, fucking bring the culprits to justice. According to you, they are traitors who deserve nothing more than a public execution, because what you're really accusing the culprits (whoever they are) of is treason, which is punishable by death. I have pointed out just two major holes in your argument. No direct evidence. No prime suspects. Two things which are absolutely essential in court. That is how I judge your case. Does it hold up in a court room?

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Originally posted by Krypton Seriously man. If you believe 100% in this case, fucking bring the culprits to justice. According to you, they are traitors who deserve nothing more than a public execution, because what you're really accusing the culprits (whoever they are) of is treason, which is punishable by death. I have pointed out just two major holes in your argument. No direct evidence. No prime suspects. Two things which are absolutely essential in court. That is how I judge your case. Does it hold up in a court room?

One day, perhaps, someone will come forward with some hardcore evidence. I wouldn't say the government is really set up to prosecute war crimes, let alone bring a massive investigation into the NeoCons and the corporate involvement of 9/11.

Let's not forget the People v.s. Orenthal James Simpson. The courts are a subjective bullshit scam anyways. lol The very word 'court' just implies a game to me. Tennis, anyone?

And that's the sickest part about all of this, sir, is that they are getting away with it. Creating an endless supply terrorism to fight; because there will never be an end to 'terrorism' or the threat to America when they're inflicting damage and altering the way of life in a sovereign nation. It's as simple as the "War on Drugs", how can they be fighting drugs in society when your government and the CIA are supporting the people who ship it into your country?

It's just more money for more guns and more control, more laws that restrict freedoms, more power in the hands of the few.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} One day, perhaps, someone will come forward with some hardcore evidence. I wouldn't say the government is really set up to prosecute war crimes, let alone bring a massive investigation into the NeoCons and the corporate involvement of 9/11. Let's not forget the People v.s. Orenthal James Simpson. The courts are a subjective bullshit scam anyways. lol The very word 'court' just implies a game to me. Tennis, anyone? And that's the sickest part about all of this, sir, is that they are getting away with it. Creating an endless supply terrorism to fight; because there will never be an end to 'terrorism' or the threat to America when they're inflicting damage and altering the way of life in a sovereign nation. It's as simple as the "War on Drugs", how can they be fighting drugs in society when your government and the CIA are supporting the people who ship it into your country? It's just more money for more guns and more control, more laws that restrict freedoms, more power in the hands of the few.

So then, how are you going to bring these people to justice? With a mob? The point is, even though you believe 100% in your case, that case, nonetheless, would not meet the standard of guilt without a shadow of a doubt. You don't even know who to prosecute, let alone, have any direct evidence.

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Originally posted by Krypton What have you called us out on? By all means, post it. Federal Reserve? 9/11? Let's do this. I know colorut is too much of a pussy to debate me, even when challenged. Trancer, will you take up my direct debate challenge? Post ONE point, in which you believe you have called us out on, or one point, in which you believe you are absolutely right. I will not respond to plagiarized material, so please, your own words will suffice, with of course sources to back you up. I'm ready, are you? So post that one point.

We've called you out for being underhanded trolls who seek to deter others from positively engaging in certain threads on this board by focusing on ANYTHING BUT the points which are brought up by those of us who seek to stimulate some much needed public discussion.

The fact is that you don't seem to really even want to debate in an honest manner but would rather act as some sort of sycophantic guardian to the same status quo that continues to destroy our country. And by maintaining a blindly adversarial position without even fully researching the facts surrounding the debate, you continue to mindlessly spout government propaganda while intentionally spurning any public discussion that might delve into realms that are contradictory to the "official" conspiracy theory surrounding an array of topics ranging from The Secret Government, The Federal Reserve, 9/11, etc.

Or as you've previously said, before you spent countless hours trolling this board:

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Originally posted by Krypton Who here has the time to read all of that?

To be fair, I probably would have taken you more seriously in regards to your little debate challenge had it not been for your well established history of dancing around the facts (while completely failing to acknowledge them) while propounding many of the same deceptive White House talking points that our lying administration has been feeding other intellectually prostituting pundits like Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Ann Coulter.

BTW - and what's with the lawsuit red herring? We're just trying to arouse some much needed public debate in the hopes of getting our elected officials (while we still have them) to press for an independent and fully funded investigation. That's the kind of investigation that we should have had in the first place (like the Jersey Girls were pressing for) in order to maintain what our country is severely lacking - accountability.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Hey, considering you've avoided my points on the path of least resistance, I wouldn't be calling people out. I've stated my theory, and given proof of measure. How do you respond? Since you're in such a mood to debate.

Yeah, he likes to dance around those points but is reeeaaallly eager to debate red herrings. lol

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Originally posted by Trancer-X We've called you out for being underhanded trolls who seek to deter others from positively engaging in certain threads on this board by focusing on ANYTHING BUT the points which are brought up by those of us who seek to stimulate some much needed public discussion. The fact is that you don't seem to really even want to debate in an honest manner but would rather act as some sort of sycophantic guardian to the same status quo that continues to destroy our country. And by maintaining a blindly adversarial position without even fully researching the facts surrounding the debate, you continue to mindlessly spout government propaganda while intentionally spurning any public discussion that might delve into realms that are contradictory to the "official" conspiracy theory surrounding an array of topics ranging from The Secret Government, The Federal Reserve, 9/11, etc. Or as you've previously said, before you spent countless hours trolling this board: To be fair, I probably would have taken you more seriously in regards to your little debate challenge had it not been for your well established history of dancing around the facts (while completely failing to acknowledge them) while propounding many of the same deceptive White House talking points that our lying administration has been feeding other intellectually prostituting pundits like Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Ann Coulter. BTW - and what's with the lawsuit red herring? We're just trying to arouse some much needed public debate in the hopes of getting our elected officials (while we still have them) to press for an independent and fully funded investigation. That's the kind of investigation that we should have had in the first place (like the Jersey Girls were pressing for) in order to maintain what our country is severely lacking - accountability.

I don't agree with you. DEAL WITH IT CRY BABY. I'm debating with BSE who actually takes the time to write his own thoughts out and stays respectful as do I with him... you can stay the fuck out, unless you have something constructive to say, in a non-plagiarizing fashion.

I'll tell you the same thing I told BSE. If your case is so solid, get the fuck off the forums, and take it to a fucking court. Bring the bastards to justice. That is...if you have a case...

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Telling me to take it to court is rather irrelevant as well.. This is a debate within a forum for our own interests and I believe the best way to act is to inform the public.

That's apparently beyond his comprehension so he just continues to dance around the facts while posting adolescent pictures in his sorry attempt to shift the focus away from the topic at hand.