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Originally posted by squirrelly For those of you that "lost" faith, did you just wake up one day and think "ok, I'm done with that" or were there a series of things that led to it?

I used to be fed with religion by my grandparents when i was a kid, but the more i grew up and started thinking with my own head the more i realised that the stories they were telling me were full of crap and made no sense at all and that most religious people were fucking douchebags. A belief confirmed when i got a really bad beating from a priest when one time after sunday school (was forced to attend because of the grandparents) i dared to ask him why there is no mention of dinosaurs in the bible. I think i was about 6 or 7 at the time. Apart from attending a few funerals i never entered a church again, the grandparents were devastated of course but at that point i had a considerable lower opinion of them anyway so i didnt care...still dont.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I am not a fan of religion, but this is one thing I commend the Mormon church for. People pay their tithing, but NO ONE but the people that are above the regional level in "management" are paid by the church. All the Bishops (the "pastor") Stake Presidents (the regional "pastor" that oversees all the "wards" (aka the congregations of each bishop)) and I think even the one just above that (can't remember the name lol) are all doing this as a service to god.

Yes, duping people into working for you for free *is* a good business model, I must say...

Though the city of Las Vegas keeps the Mormons juiced.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yes, duping people into working for you for free *is* a good business model, I must say... Though the city of Las Vegas keeps the Mormons juiced.

LOL

I am not saying it is for me, but with these people that are supposed to be doing things out of the kindness of their hearts and for god, why are they getting paid for it? I mean, I understand the ones that are high up that do nothing but stuff with the church, but ffs, the lowly pastors and shit aren't only doing church things.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

No, I know what you mean. It's why when people say that religion is just a way to make money, it doesn't really hold much water at all.

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Haha and another thing from my brothers church is that you have to pay for your sins. Depending on the severeity of them you have to give the church money in order to "remove your sins" or whatever. The worst part is that the people do it lol. Brainwashing at it's best.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ im a failure with females...i will be the real 40 year old virgin i guarentee you

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Originally posted by Rose Haha and another thing from my brothers church is that you have to pay for your sins. Depending on the severeity of them you have to give the church money in order to "remove your sins" or whatever. The worst part is that the people do it lol. Brainwashing at it's best.

Interesting. I've never heard of evangelical Protestant churches doing that.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Interesting. I've never heard of evangelical Protestant churches doing that.

lol he goes to one of those Christian mega churches where the pastor is screaming the entire time and everyone's crying and throwing themselves on the floor. Absolutely terrible.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ im a failure with females...i will be the real 40 year old virgin i guarentee you

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Originally posted by Rose Haha and another thing from my brothers church is that you have to pay for your sins. Depending on the severeity of them you have to give the church money in order to "remove your sins" or whatever. The worst part is that the people do it lol. Brainwashing at it's best.

If someone is dumb enough to give money, then they deserve to be broke. Such is the way of the world.

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Originally posted by Renzo If someone is dumb enough to give money, then they deserve to be broke. Such is the way of the world.

I agree.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ im a failure with females...i will be the real 40 year old virgin i guarentee you

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Originally posted by Renzo If someone is dumb enough to give money, then they deserve to be broke. Such is the way of the world.

Yes but the person they're giving their money to doesn't deserve it either.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel In almost every other church everyone for the most part gets paid.

Are you nuts? In every Catholic mass there is no fewer then 15 people involved and the only one getting paid is the priest... and they don't get very much... generally $15-30K per year gross of taxes. Of course they have their room and board paid for by the parish but $15-30K for someone who has a fuckin' doctorate is pretty shitty... no priest enters the priesthood for money. FYI, Bishops will make roughly the same amount as a parish priest but get better accommodations and usually a travel allowance.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by squirrelly Catholicism is the one religion that grinds my gears. I had a lot of not-so-good experiences with Catholics. I hate how they demand you give them money.

Odd, the church has never demanded anything of me.

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And when I question their thoughts, they get all pissed off instead of answering me.

Have you ever tried actually asking a priest rather then a parishioner? Long before becoming Catholic I regularly met with a parish priest to discuss Catholicism (note... I was not interested in joining the church at the time either). That said, if you have any questions you'd like to ask a semi-learned every-day parishioner; ask away...

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down