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Originally posted by Theresa Alright, I have a question that has always bugged me! Why is it so socially acceptable for women to be lesbians, but not for men to be gay!? Why the double standard?! It seems to be very well taken for two women to be together, but when two men are together it's so wrong. Please someone explain this to me because I honestly don't get it!

that IS a good question

id say its just one of those things that you have to wonder about..like why men dont where tight clothes and women dont where baggy, or loose fitting clothes. or why men dont have vaginas and vice versa..

this all.well...it really started to take shape this way, im gunna guess around the later 60's. lesbians and gays started to surface in the media and publicly. id also guess that lesbians became public before males. im sure the public viewed lesbians as more..delicate, sensual lovers. then men came out publicly and, of course, the public has always viewed and shown men havin the upper hand, really, up until the 70s. or late sixties also. Men have also been shown as masculin, more rough and tumble kinda people. so gay male sex was probably viewed alot worse because it involved sodomy, which used to be outlawed, and still is in some states. male sex is alot more rough, when lesbians, well, women in general are shown as being more delicate, so i guess it didnt seem so bad..
until of course strap ons where made...hehehe

anywas thats just my $0.02

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Originally posted by Theresa Alright, I have a question that has always bugged me! Why is it so socially acceptable for women to be lesbians, but not for men to be gay!? Why the double standard?! It seems to be very well taken for two women to be together, but when two men are together it's so wrong. Please someone explain this to me because I honestly don't get it!

i have these two friends that are lesbians and i get REALLY tired of seeing them make out and kissing each other all the time. I mean, i don't wanna sit there and watch anyone do that kinda shit.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i have these two friends that are lesbians and i get REALLY tired of seeing them make out and kissing each other all the time. I mean, i don't wanna sit there and watch anyone do that kinda shit.

They must not be hot.

I understand the double standard even though I'm not all that into girl on girl action. Man on man is just a lot more gross. Women have much more beautiful bodies (less hair, smoother skin, etc.). I don't get into it too much, but must admit it's cool to see two hot girls make out a little, as long as it's not excessive. It's best when the girls are hesitant, because they "don't usually do this".

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Originally posted by Theresa Alright, I have a question that has always bugged me! Why is it so socially acceptable for women to be lesbians, but not for men to be gay!? Why the double standard?! It seems to be very well taken for two women to be together, but when two men are together it's so wrong. Please someone explain this to me because I honestly don't get it!

Homosexuality is wrong for either sex. It's immoral and ethically incorrect as well. The fact that society has a higher tolerance for "lesbians" is soley due to the fact that the moral and ethical "bar" (our standards as a society) has been lowered by a humanistic and non-religious point of view. Also, the people lowering the moral and ethical bars are primarily male - and although not many men want to see male homosexuality socially acceptable - the thought of a couple girls together is "ok" because it turns them on.

I also think the rise of Fruedian "freedom of sexual expression" has something to do with it. Add that with the statement above, and you have a society where homosexuality becomes more and more acceptable.

well IMO seeing a man with a another man does not turn me on, nor does seeing a woman with another woman. I prefer seeing myself live in action with my man

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It is a pretty messed up double standard. I definitely agree that it's wrong on both sides, but still find it funny to see two non-homosexual women kiss. I'm not saying that's right, but if I had to choose, I'll watch two women rather than two men.

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i'm saying i don't wanna watch anyone make out whether its girl on girl, boy on boy, or girl on boy...

of course there will always be something if people are a little drunk or something...i'm guilty of that, but i hate when people are completely sober and are all over each other twenty four seven...i mean...give it a rest or get a room

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i'm saying i don't wanna watch anyone make out whether its girl on girl, boy on boy, or girl on boy... of course there will always be something if people are a little drunk or something...i'm guilty of that, but i hate when people are completely sober and are all over each other twenty four seven...i mean...give it a rest or get a room

Yeah, too much PDA is no good. I have been guilty of it a couple of times (with a girl of course), but those were extrenuating circumstances. After party when PVD and Jerry Bonham were in town. I was highly intoxicated. I try not to do that, because I think it's pretty rude, but sometimes you get caught up in the moment.

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Hmmm very good thoughts.

My ex used to say that it was because there was a mixture of parts that were unusual.

Like, it's more normal for a tounge to be touching your genitals, but it is less normal to have a penis being rammed up your bum. So that is why it is less accepted.

I never accepted that as a good excuse. At one time, it wasn't acceptable for people to be partaking in oral sex at all, and in fact, some places made it illegal!

So neither form is fully accepted in entirety, so why's the lez action better?

I think a lot of your ideas are very accurate. The whole religion based thing is a very plausible idea. Societies were highly based upon religion, so I can see this moral standard stemming from that.

Any more thoughts? Crazy theories or ideas?

i think that it really think its the result of the stigma we place on male homosexuality in society and the support we lend to lesbians. if we didn't put such a negative outlook on being gay in general, then i'm sure we would see that sort of thing a lot more...

plus i do agree with the women are better looking then men thing hehehe

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Originally posted by Seventil Homosexuality is wrong for either sex. It's immoral and ethically incorrect as well. The fact that society has a higher tolerance for "lesbians" is soley due to the fact that the moral and ethical "bar" (our standards as a society) has been lowered by a humanistic and non-religious point of view. Also, the people lowering the moral and ethical bars are primarily male - and although not many men want to see male homosexuality socially acceptable - the thought of a couple girls together is "ok" because it turns them on. I also think the rise of Fruedian "freedom of sexual expression" has something to do with it. Add that with the statement above, and you have a society where homosexuality becomes more and more acceptable.

there is so much to bash in this post that it would take too long to post a worthly reply.

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