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InterMilan31
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In full support of Isreal and their actions hope all the TA Isreali/Lebanese come out ok and out of harms way if possible

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Abhay
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Registered: May 2004
Location: mould coast

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
most people around here are hysteric, including my family and neighbours





then y are u so calm?

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epsilon1
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Mazkeret Batia, IL

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
WTF???are you on crack?how are they suppose to get the fuck out of the way when there is no way to get out in the first place?

the terrorist regime of Israel doesnt give a fuck what anyone thinks of them nor will the listen to anyone.


very mature post
Before every attack the IAF warns the citizens of the upcoming bombing.
When Hezbollah chooses to launch their missiles and to mount their HQ in the middle of populated neighbourhoods, there's no doubt that civilian facilities will be damaged.
many tourists are leaving the prone-to-air attacks areas, so shall do citizens if they dont want to get hurt. It's their homes, but also Hezbollah facilities.


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Old Post Jul-16-2006 09:44  Israel
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Originally posted by Cyrus King




FILTHY ZIONIST TERRORISTS


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Old Post Jul-16-2006 09:56  Israel
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epsilon1
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quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Uh

U don't just go into another person's country's and borders and start attacking and bombing them, unless it was that country's army itself that started things. That's more of an act of war against a nation, than a group of rogue terrorists attacking a nation. In reality, to for terrorists launch an attack, they'd have to be in someone's country, and u can't automatically parse blame onto that country for that. Seriously, how much land is there on this planet, that hasn't been claimed as some nation's land.

There's diplomatic processes and forewarnings that need to be put in place. The israeli's are affecting the civilians of these country's who have nothing to do with anything, not so much capturing hezbollah militants. This is what i'm talking about when i say just rampant disrespect for other nations and their civlians.

Speaking of these rockets, they're all very ineffective, and nearly all of these home made piles of shit don't actually have the range to make it deep enough into israeli territory. So giving a huge number of rockets that've been fired (who the hell counts anyway?), is very misleading, when 99% of them don't do anything. I mean i haven't seen very much footage of the damage that the hezbollah rockets have caused in Israeli territory.

It's al too heavy handed IMO. I don't think either sides are angels, but in this case i'm really against what the israeli's are doing.


Israel warned Hezbollah, when we withdrew from Lebanon in 2000, that if Hezbollah attacks Israel WITHIN its boarders, the response will be harsh and massive. youre still ignoring this. Israel is attacked not only once, but every 6 months by Hezbollah militants, while Nasrallah addmits he is trying to capture a soldier (with his stupid provokations).

About the missiles, im sorry, but your logic is totally fucked up.
Regradless that these rockets ARE INDEED lethal, the story isnt about their effectiveness. Only the fact that Israel is being attacked within its internation recognized baorders is outraging. what would you say if IDF bombed lebanese territories without hitting humans, is this legitimate? not to mention that the rockets do hit our citizens.


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venomX
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Originally posted by Abhay
Try to not think of South-West asia as a part of the middle east. THey're not that closesly linked.


Im sorry but last i knew from my asian studies class of all the countries i mentioned India is the only one that people in the know qualify as "Asian". Pakistan and Iran are "Middle-Eastern", its a pretty arbitrary demarcation and its made by westerners but thats how it goes in my books. And as far as my research is going they are pretty "closely linked" at the moment, ovbiously not culturally but they're economic and idelogical ties are getting stronger by the minute.


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Originally posted by KrazyDJs
Heh, yeah...the alram woke me up here, along with the couple of bombings. great morning to wake up to...


ha ha ha. Have a nice day, sit tight!


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Abhay
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quote:
Originally posted by venomX
Im sorry but last i knew from my asian studies class of all the countries i mentioned India is the only one that people in the know qualify as "Asian". Pakistan and Iran are "Middle-Eastern", its a pretty arbitrary demarcation and its made by westerners but thats how it goes in my books. And as far as my research is going they are pretty "closely linked" at the moment, ovbiously not culturally but they're economic and idelogical ties are getting stronger by the minute.


Economically, India is a lot more closely tied to teh west than Iran any day.

Believe me.

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Abhay
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quote:
Originally posted by epsilon1
Israel warned Hezbollah, when we withdrew from Lebanon in 2000, that if Hezbollah attacks Israel WITHIN its boarders, the response will be harsh and massive. youre still ignoring this. Israel is attacked not only once, but every 6 months by Hezbollah militants, while Nasrallah addmits he is trying to capture a soldier (with his stupid provokations).

About the missiles, im sorry, but your logic is totally fucked up.
Regradless that these rockets ARE INDEED lethal, the story isnt about their effectiveness. Only the fact that Israel is being attacked within its internation recognized baorders is outraging. what would you say if IDF bombed lebanese territories without hitting humans, is this legitimate? not to mention that the rockets do hit our citizens.


I'm not of the region, so anything i say in my opinion loses it's credibility. I'm much open to what ppl living in the region says, as opposed to voicing my opinion.

I can understand your point, and see the validity in it.

Nevertheless, to say that hezbollah operates within densley populated reasons, isn't the same as hezbollah operating IN INNOCENT PEOPLE'S HOMES.

I'm sorry, but there really needs to be a lot of brainstorming in what to do in such a situation, u simply can't go around hurting the livelihoods of a populace of 10s of thousands of people, when only .1% of them would know of or have anything to do with hezbollah.

The reality is, hezbollah members are likely to predict what IDF would do, and would take measure to avoiding getting hit. However, this is not the case for the innocent civilians who have no idea what the hell hezbollh is doing, and have no idea why the hell there is suddenly bombs dorpping on them.

Im not saying Israel shouldn't get pissed off. I'm just saying that the international community and israel need to fight terrorism via other methods (not so say that hezbollah and their ideology is invalid, who am I to judge?).

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Its morning here by me but it seems like the day has been pretty rough out there so far.
Hope all Israeli & Lebanese TA's along with thier family & friends make it through this whole thing untouched.


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NYCTrancefan
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quote:
Originally posted by Abhay

The reality is, hezbollah members are likely to predict what IDF would do, and would take measure to avoiding getting hit. However, this is not the case for the innocent civilians who have no idea what the hell hezbollh is doing, and have no idea why the hell there is suddenly bombs dorpping on them.



This is what is puzzling me, unless there is a full 180 reversal of position of Hezbollah, will Israel just keep dropping bombs on Lebanon, I mean they will soon tire of bombing the same targets and then what's left. Hezbollah is not getting hurt by this. Israel may be seeking an uprising against Hezbollah by Lebanon at large, the reality is the issue is far more complex given Lebanon's history and past conflicts, its a juggling act within that nation itself. I still think this begins and ends with Iran but Israel isn't touching them. I don't see how the Lebanese government will survive this scenario and who benefits the most from the collapse of Lebanon.


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Psy-T
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Registered: Jan 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Abhay


then y are u so calm?


just who and what i am...


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