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Originally posted by star-traveller Iran having a nuclear capability = a thread IS A BIG FUCKING joke created and keep being sold by Western news media.

This is what I would lean towards believing also...

I wouldn't mind a different administration than the Bush administration deciding what our course should be with Iran... I think the Bush admin has already pulled all the wrong cards and helped to create this problem in the first place, so any trust we as a people could have that they would do the right thing in a non-shady manner has been revoked.

Honestly, I don't want crazies having nukes anywhere, and that includes the United States.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby This is what I would lean towards believing also... I wouldn't mind a different administration than the Bush administration deciding what our course should be with Iran... I think the Bush admin has already pulled all the wrong cards and helped to create this problem in the first place, so any trust we as a people could have that they would do the right thing in a non-shady manner has been revoked. Honestly, I don't want crazies having nukes anywhere, and that includes the United States.

Currently it is the UN that is the sole body setting the course in Iran. I hope they are successful and nothing further comes of this.

U.N. Security Council Resolution 1696 LINK
U.N. Security Council Resolution 1737 LINK

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Originally posted by star-traveller Iran having a nuclear capability = a thread IS A BIG FUCKING joke created and keep being sold by Western news media.

Iran having a nuclear capability is a threat, to its own people. Its leadership could just be crazy enough to use it, which would result in massive retaliation and the deaths of many innocent Iranians.

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Originally posted by XaNaX Iran having a nuclear capability is a threat, to its own people. Its leadership could just be crazy enough to use it, which would result in massive retaliation and the deaths of many innocent Iranians.

Well for me their president looks much less crazy than the president of the world's best nation.

What is the measurement of craziness you are using?
The fact that he has balls to say No, doesn't make him crazy.

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Originally posted by star-traveller Well for me their president looks much less crazy than the president of the world's best nation. What is the measurement of craziness you are using? The fact that he has balls to say No, doesn't make him crazy.

the fact that he denies the holocaust doesn't make him crazy either right?

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Originally posted by Haunted the fact that he denies the holocaust doesn't make him crazy either right?

well, some people deny Al-Qaeda assistance in 9/11. Are they crazy?
And some people said that WMD exists in Iraq, are they crazy too?

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Originally posted by star-traveller well, some people deny Al-Qaeda assistance in 9/11. Are they crazy? And some people said that WMD exists in Iraq, are they crazy too?

Bush was at least able to change his stance in the face of evidence.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...ticle764622.ece

And yes, people who don't believe Al-Qaeda was involved in 9/11 probably are crazy.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Bush was at least able to change his stance in the face of evidence. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...ticle764622.ece

LOL, yeah, that's clearly reflected in his policy/actions right?

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Originally posted by NeoPhono And yes, people who don't believe Al-Qaeda was involved in 9/11 probably are crazy.

No, Al-Quaeda was involved in 9-11. The problem is, Al-Qaeda is another label coined by the CIA, for Al-CIAeda. The one who's crazy are the people that think the most sturdy and over engineered structures in the world would virtually defy the laws of physics and fall straight down just like a controlled demolition. What's even crazier is being passive submisive children and letting the Govt go on rampage in quest for Empire.

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
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Originally posted by star-traveller well, some people deny Al-Qaeda assistance in 9/11. Are they crazy? And some people said that WMD exists in Iraq, are they crazy too?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King i listen to trance becuase it is beautifully composed like a classical piece of music.... but with beats in it...

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I hardly if ever acknowledge sarcasm from a person I dont know because I ran into serious problems on an undisclosed buying website before.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z LOL, yeah, that's clearly reflected in his policy/actions right? No, Al-Quaeda was involved in 9-11. The problem is, Al-Qaeda is another label coined by the CIA, for Al-CIAeda. The one who's crazy are the people that think the most sturdy and over engineered structures in the world would virtually defy the laws of physics and fall straight down just like a controlled demolition. What's even crazier is being passive submisive children and letting the Govt go on rampage in quest for Empire.

Well said

Bringing 9/11 conspiracy theories into the mix = thread over for me.

I don't care what you believe, honestly. It does show however, that you're in the mindset that everything could very well be the government's fault. Even more, it shows that rational discussion is impossible. So, go on believing whatever it is you believe. I hope that your disdain and paranoia keep you warm at night.

Even though I don't plan on replying to them, I expect a few great rebuttals to this post. Go ahead and gnash your teeth and type away in fury, telling me how I'm crazy because I think Iran would have nukes if they could and that's a bad thing, and that 9/11 wasn't some elaborate government conspiracy.

Boy am I glad I don't live in Iran. Things could get ugly with public statements like this.

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Apr. 18, 2007 21:33 | Updated Apr. 18, 2007 23:40 Former Mossad chief: Kill Ahmadinejad By JPOST STAFF AND AP Western countries must unite in an effort to assassinate Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, former head of the Mossad Meir Amit said on Wednesday night. "Even though in the past I have been opposed to assassinating Arab leaders, this case is different because it alone is the center of the nuclear issue," Amit told the weekly Kfar Chabad magazine set be published on Thursday. Amit said he did not perceive an existential danger to Israel following Iran's nuclear development - "but that is only on condition that we do something about it." The former Mossad chief went on to say that the nuclear facility in Dimona presented a deterrent against Ahmadinejad's intentions. "I think that this is the only reason that he won't attack us," he said. ...

Source: The Jerusalem Post

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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