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Originally posted by Krypton At least I'm willing to examine the case. You guys wholesale refuse to even debate on any of your points. Your conspiracies are dogmatic, even religious, how dare we question your holy conspiracy gospel!!

Well, naturally you are the decider, right? These aren't conspiracies, this is the truth, and it's ugly.

What do you mean I refuse to debate? I made a tongue-in-cheek comment about Kennedy, you which in turn required a follow up statement to validate what I had said. So now it's up to you to investigate. I'll be open to debate anything you have in mind.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Well, naturally you are the decider, right? These aren't conspiracies, this is the truth, and it's ugly. What do you mean I refuse to debate? I made a tongue-in-cheek comment about Kennedy, you which in turn required a follow up statement to validate what I had said. So now it's up to you to investigate. I'll be open to debate anything you have in mind.

Well, not you. An the, "I am the decider"...it's a Bush quote...



I watched the first 30 minutes of the JFK "documentary" (which it isn't), and I found some of the stuff compelling, such as the grassy knoll issue. I still don't know enough to say anything of substance about it.

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They where to busy trolling b.s.e., I posted the JFK documentary a long time ago and of course they never paid attention.

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Originally posted by culorut JFKII - The Bush Connection

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Originally posted by culorut They where to busy trolling b.s.e., I posted the JFK documentary a long time ago and of course they never paid attention.

Yes, because everything you post, we should take as holy scripture...

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Originally posted by Krypton Yes, because everything you post, we should take as holy scripture...

The first 30 minutes? Ok, Single bullet theory it is. LOL


There isn't even a dramatic leap in judgment to verify the facts and research, it's like watching a CSI case. I don't understand the depth of denial in this world.

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Link

I was unaware of this, has this been posted?

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The United States In Bankruptcy From the United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993: Vol. 33, page H-1303 Speaker - Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11... Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise. It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?' Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money"

The rest of the one minute speech can be found via the link.

It seems from this, the Fed owns America. Has this situation changed at all?

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Link I was unaware of this, has this been posted? The rest of the one minute speech can be found via the link. It seems from this, the Fed owns America. Has this situation changed at all?

Here is the actual Emergency Banking Act itself. Find me the part in which the Federal Government has been dissolved.

http://tucnak.fsv.cuni.cz/~calda/Do...gBank_1933.html

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Not to mention the fact that the IMF (or the UN for that matter) didn't exist in 1933 when we supposedly handed over control to them.

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Gotcha. Cleared that up.

Here's some clarification on the Kennedy/Fed conpiracy as well.

Pretty good site.

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Gotcha. Cleared that up. Here's some clarification on the Kennedy/Fed conpiracy as well. Pretty good site.

You haven't cleared anything up. In the course of my own research, I have already looked at that grainy scan of text without you posting it. Great, you found a scan, but that's not what was asked of you. I asked you to do something very specific and really have no idea how you could not have understood what I was asking. Here, I'll restate it...

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Originally posted by Krypton Here is the actual Emergency Banking Act itself. Find me the part in which the Federal Government has been dissolved. http://tucnak.fsv.cuni.cz/~calda/Do...gBank_1933.html

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Originally posted by Krypton You haven't cleared anything up. In the course of my own research, I have already looked at that grainy scan of text without you posting it. Great, you found a scan, but that's not what was asked of you. I asked you to do something very specific and really have no idea how you could not have understood what I was asking. Here, I'll restate it...

I suppose I should have stated that the scan does not mesh with the other written statement, rendering it a false statement.

It cleared it up for me. :P

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