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Originally posted by mysticalninja what the fuck is that? i googled it and the first result is some Thread you posted in on toribash forums..

The basic concept is there cannot be an infinite number of events before this one. The concept that there is, is a fallacious one. So Its dubbed "Infinite Recession Fallacy"

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Originally posted by Nightshift Cronodevir, you sir are the village idiot.

No.

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Originally posted by cronodevir What? Onboard sound can be better than a card, just like onboard video can be better than a card. For instance Geforce 9600 Onboard is better than a Geforce 8600 PCIe. What sound card do you have and we can gauge its worth against mine. As for not needing a sound card..no you don't. Ive used a PC with no sound card, copied the finish .flp to it and made a .wav render. Obviously, I had to hear it before hand on the composition PC. I never said I make music without hearing the sound... When I copied the .flp it didn't need to be monitored, because the mixing and mastering was done already. It was time for render and release. Yeah, you can mix and master in the sequencer..who knew?

1, That's becuase the 9600 is a better video processor incorporated in to the motherboard. It's like a higher model being used regdardless of data transfer method (onboard buss vs pci).
As you cannot get echosystem, motu, apogee, lavry or even m-audio interfaces (it's more than just a single chip working) already incorporated to a motherboard these soundcards are subtanstially better sounding than any onboard "chip" could be.

2, So to take advantage of a good soundcard you need decent speakers or good headphones and a decent listening environment. Not saying you can;t produce well on a lesser setup, but it's certainly far easier and there a point where the quality of what you;re able to hear will be limited to a certain ceiling.

3, By having a better soundcard and relative setup to support that soundcards quality level, you will be able to hear the material better
and therefore compose, engineer, produce, mix and master to a higher level, and in turn create a better final product.

But hey, what do I know? - I just work in a pro studio and have done tech support for several pro audio manufacturers...

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Originally posted by DJ RANN But hey, what do I know? - I just work in a pro studio and have done tech support for several pro audio manufacturers...

No you haven't.

Its a shame, I thought we were done with this thread, I guess DJ RANN wants to start some shit then leave...again.

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Originally posted by cronodevir I guess DJ RANN wants to start some shit then leave...again.

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Originally posted by cronodevir I thought we were done with this thread,

n00b

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Originally posted by cronodevir The basic concept is there cannot be an infinite number of events before this one. The concept that there is, is a fallacious one. So Its dubbed "Infinite Recession Fallacy"

It's only a concept, not 100% knowledge. Look at that photo above where the Hubble telescope shows a galaxy which technically shouldn't exist.
Why couldn't there be an infinite number of events? Show me some scientific data that poses a limit on events.

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Originally posted by cronodevir I guess DJ RANN wants to prove me wrong then leave...again.

This

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Originally posted by Fledz It's only a concept, not 100% knowledge. Look at that photo above where the Hubble telescope shows a galaxy which technically shouldn't exist. Why couldn't there be an infinite number of events? Show me some scientific data that poses a limit on events.

Infinite number of events before this one*

There cannot be an infinite number of events before say.. 1900. And an infinite number of events before say... 2000. Because both groups are of varying quantity. One clearly has more than the other. You you cannot claim that either of them has an infinite number of links in the chain.

Infinity, You cannot add it or subtract it or divide it or multiply it, You can't have something more infinite than something else, and you cannot have something less infinite than something else.

Its like saying "this object is more without limit than this object over there" or "this set is more without limit than that set"..Now, people do say that, but they are defying objective logic when they do.

This of course requires a proper understanding of reality vs imaginary. What you imagine is not implicitly reality. You can imagine for instance, a shape with only 50% of it being subtracted forever. And not reach an end, in reality however, you can't. You reach an indivisible particle.

Which leads to another fallacy, the idea that objects have an infinite number of particles in them. I have a pencil and a bed. One is clearly larger than the other, so they cannot have the same infinite number of particles in them.

Some people try to say the particles have no size, thus you can have an infinite amount of them. This is wrong, because particles that have no size, no XYZ dimensions, cannot be used to compose an object that does have XYZ dimensions.

There is your logical explanation. Logic precedes scientific observation. Why? Because science requires logic to function.

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I am absolutely positive that there is very little discernible and pertinent information in this thread. When will anyone learn that arguing with cronodevir is pointless and even counter productive?

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Originally posted by EddieZilker I am absolutely positive that there is very little discernible and pertinent information in this thread. When will anyone learn that arguing with cronodevir is pointless and even counter productive?

Yeah, why argue with someone when you are wrong and they are right? I like your mentality and implication EddieZilker

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What about Pi? Isn't that infinite? I think the problem is you mind simply cannot grasp infinity, so you turn to simpler explanations like god. kind of how you stick with the simpler fruityloops and claim it makes so much more sense than cubase/logic

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Last edited by mysticalninja on May-16-2009 at 02:10