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Originally posted by Jake Benson Well, it could be stupid but it's definitely benign compared to oil from under the damn sea. But yeah solar and wind FTW by far. I was educated on this back in 1995. SO FUCKING long ago yet America really hasn't capitalized off of this. Probably because old sources of energy is owned by old people who don't like change.

Old sources of energy are owned by old rich people who don't like change or other people getting money. Also, people are lazy. Gas is bad, yet it's convenient, so most people don't mind. Also, people don't care.

Wind + Solar all the way.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Well I'm sure other Dolphins will be shortly.

Yeah, but your thing is kind of false advertising

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Originally posted by Lews Yeah, but your thing is kind of false advertising

No, I justified it. I just edited it. It's sardonic now.

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Currently "biofuels" like ethanol made from corn make no sense to use...

All the processing right from plowing the fields to turning the crop into ethanol is done with oil. The net energy is actually negative.

Well, I guess you could also pump water upstream and then use dams to generate electricity and call it green energy.

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Originally posted by Ridexer All the processing right from plowing the fields to turning the crop into ethanol is done with oil. The net energy is actually negative.

Yep. Hence why wind + solar for the win.

I get depressed when people brag about using ethanol. It's worse than just using gas, since it ends up with more pollution. Plus it gives off massive amounts of smug as well.

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Sorry I didn't know how bad corn was.

The only drawback I've heard about wind energy is killing birds. I find that hardly a big enough reason to not use wind energy. It's least expensive to build right? But Solar Power can potentially generate more power. I saw some chip commercial talking about how "the Sun in one day can generate enough power so why don't we start using that power." Ironically it then goes on to advertise a god damn fucking bag of chips. That's like saying, "Hey guys think of the forest animals don't cut trees! Buy our lube."

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Originally posted by Ridexer Currently "biofuels" like ethanol made from corn make no sense to use... All the processing right from plowing the fields to turning the crop into ethanol is done with oil. The net energy is actually negative. Well, I guess you could also pump water upstream and then use dams to generate electricity and call it green energy.

HAHAHA!!! Well said!! It's socialism for US corn farmers. It makes more sense in Brasil with the ethanol from sugar cane being not nearly as fuel-intensive to harvest nor does it affect the food chain.

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Originally posted by Lews I get depressed when people brag about using ethanol. It's worse than just using gas, since it ends up with more pollution. Plus it gives off massive amounts of smug as well.

Don't lie- you'd be just as smug if everyone bragged about you, too.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Try not to take her criticisms too harshly- most things pale in comparison to life in Hobbiton.

Lies, its all rainbows, unicorns and flowers, we just don't like your type here.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson 1. Obama takes charge and tells BP it's done for. I really don't understand why this hasn't happened yet. BP it clearly too incompetent to fix this. The gov't needs to take control NOW.

You're not thinking like a politician.
Any politician that doesn't have a bulletproof solution to this that goes running in to take personal ownership of a bleeding mess like this will get utterly destroyed. If they could find a sacrificial public servant (ala, Hurricane Katrina) and send them in there to be the fall guy if it inevitably goes to hell, then they might do that.

Otherwise, its much more expedient to just sit back and let BP take all the blame, inefficient, ineffective and utterly deniable.

Fucking hell:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...,0,907235.story

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BP's new plan risks worsening oil spill A maneuver that includes severing a leaking pipe from the well may increase the flow as much as 20%. Officials also say there is no immediate remedy to plug the well until August.

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FUCKING NUKE IT.

MAIL YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REP AND SENATORS AND TELL THEM TO DEPLOY THE NUCLEAR OPTION NOW.

THERE IS NOTHING TO LOOSE!

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby LOOSE

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