Yeah, that is sad.

Tampa has come out swinging.

offtopic: SUOMI WORLD CHAMPIONS!

(I always cheer for them in hockey)

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lol @ you celebrating that

no one recognizes that tournament, so you may as well

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay http://gothamist.com/2011/05/14/ran...oogaard_dea.php pretty sad stuff.

Still no updates on the COD?

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Scott has been introduced to the rave scene, and Ecstasy, by Craig. The two of them go out on the weekends, with some of Craigs friends, and stay up all night, dancing in a drug-fueled trance.

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Medical examiners were expected to conduct an autopsy on the body of Derek Boogaard Saturday to determine the cause of death, however the results likely will not be released for some time. "I don't think we have any answers as to what happened or why it happened," said Ron Salcer, Boogaard's agent. The news has shocked the hockey world, as many former teammates have characterized him as a gentle, thoughtful player off the ice, which is a stark contrast to his on-ice demeanor. Due to the head injuries believed to have been sustained by Boogaard during his playing career, many have attempted to use this to explain his passing, but there is no evidence to support that theory as of this time. The Boogaard family has agreed to donate his brain to Boston University researchers as they examine brain disease in athletes. We'll pass laong more news regarding this tragic story as it becomes available. May. 15 - 12:26 pm et

I read an article about him that said he had been undergoing treatment in the league's behavioral health/substance abuse program.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

could be...but i'll wait until the COD is determined before jumping to conclusions. There is also head injuries to consider, family history, and size.

I'm not a doctor, but being 6'4" i am well aware that bigger people have many more health issues due to height/weight. (Don't have them yet, but during my yearly physical i get screened for things earlier in life than a midget person).≥..imagine being 6'7" and 260lbs! One of the dangers is abnormal heart size which can reek havoc on blood pressure and cause cardiac arrests in seemingly healthy individuals....not that any of this happened, but i wouldn't quite jump to drug use being the cause right away.

Hockey is easily the most demanding sport in North America. Americans like to think it is football...but they play 17 games a year once a week and have 1 minute breaks almost between each play. You want to see what an nhl player who was a 4th liner looks like at 40? It ain't pretty, most of them can barely walk.

That's true, but when someone who is that young and in that good of a physical condition dies out of nowhere, it does raise some red flags, especially when they had been treated for possible substance abuse. I doubt an NHL enforcer like him would be going to that for therapy, and not drug abuse.

I would imagine the results should be released in the next couple days, so I guess we'll know soon enough. Tragic either way, for sure.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay Hockey is easily the most demanding sport in North America. Americans like to think it is football...but they play 17 games a year once a week and have 1 minute breaks almost between each play. You want to see what an nhl player who was a 4th liner looks like at 40? It ain't pretty, most of them can barely walk.

That is true about the playing fewer games and having breaks between each play, but the physical toll on their bodies is probably just as great as hockey. NFL players have tons of health problems after they retire. Knee replacements, back problems, etc. I mean the average career of an NFL RB is about 3-5 years. They literally are getting hit, and hard, on every single play. And they're getting hit by guys that weigh 250-300 pounds and can run a 4.5-5 sec 40 yard dash. It's fairly rare to see NFL players playing past 35 because of the toll being put on their bodies. Yeah, the plays are shorter, they get breaks between each one, etc, but the time during the play is incredibly violent for almost every position.

Also, what's the average shift time for an NHL player (not defensemen) like 15-30 seconds? So they're getting a minute or 2 break every 15-30 seconds too.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

as per the size thing: look at what happened to Chara in the first round (biggest player in the nhl). He spent 2 days in hospital for an illness that only requires re-hydration for a normal sized person.

Either way we won't find out until after the playoffs are over. Then during the off season this will be a very hot topic, especially if it is deemed to be a hockey related death. Headshots and career ending cheap shots are the hot topic this year considering how many premier players where taken out this year. If it is proven to be hockey related, the owner and league will finally be forced to step up and protect their biggest assets....the guys who are on the ice getting the asses in the seats.

go lightning go!