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http://www.cnn.com/2011/BUSINESS/08....html?hpt=hp_t1

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Although the United States narrowly avoided an unprecedented default following congressional approval of a last-minute compromise plan to raise the debt ceiling, China's leading credit rating agency Wednesday downgraded U.S. sovereign debt after putting it on negative watch last month.

The Dagong Global Credit Rating Company, which lowered the United States to A+ last November after the U.S. Federal Reserve decided to continue loosening its monetary policy, announced a further downgrade to A, indicating heightened doubts over Washington's long-term ability to repay its debts.

It said the gloomy assessment -- much lower than the AAA ratings given by the so-called "big three" Western agencies Moody's, Fitch, and Standard and Poor's -- was inevitable given the level of market concern generated by the stalemate between Democrats and Republicans over the debt ceiling.

"The squabbling between the two political parties on raising the U.S. debt ceiling reflected an irreversible trend on the United States' declining ability to repay its debts," Dagong Chairman Guan Jianzhong told CNN.

"The two parties acted in a very irresponsible way and their actions greatly exposed the negative impact of the U.S. political system on its economic fundamentals," he said.

Ironically, Dagong's move could hurt not just the United States but also China, the largest foreign owner of U.S. debt with holdings worth almost $1.2 trillion.

"Our downgrade simply reflects reality," Guan said. "Our rating didn't cause China to lose any money --- it was the inappropriately high ratings for the U.S. by Western agencies that had led China to make risky investments in U.S. debt."

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AAA credit rating, gone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/06/b...sp.html?_r=1&hp

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AAA credit rating, gone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/06/b...sp.html?_r=1&hp


Saw this. Not good, at all.


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Ahh yes. looks like i did speak too soon. My applogies Kevin,

Looks like those CDO were rated higher than the national debt LOL.

Anyways, i think I have to take back my comment with regards to greek debt related to US debt as apples vs oranges. Its more like oranges and tangerines now. I'm puzzled to see what will happen now. I guess that means bond yields go up?

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