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Originally posted by NuDarkBeat coming from someone who plays no instruments.

for example Fur Elise does that sound like your usual progressive house anthem?

P.Diddy classicaladdict in training?

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Originally posted by NuDarkBeat coming from someone who plays no instruments.

Wow, it has a melody, so it's similar to classical music! Oh wait, alot of modern progressive house doesn't even have that. The "melody" is played out by the basslines, which hardly exists in classical music.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

Imagine that

classical = classical
trance = trance
house = house

there may have similarities... but get over it!

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NuDarkBeat, I'd like to point out what an idiot you are. Not only are you only two years older than Ory, your posts show that you're obviously less intelligent than him. I wouldn't resort to stereotyping everyone younger than you as stupid when you lack the capacity to follow an argument properly.

EDM= EM. Wrong. Electronic Music in general and EDM in particular are quite different beasts. EDM is constructed for dancing, and most EDM follows strict guidelines and pre-determined techniques for inciting crowd reaction. Electronic music in general will often not have these features as it's created for listening to in your headphones. Although some people seem to think otherwise, a breakdown works well on a dancefloor. However, on your stereo it's a bit pointless. People who advocate breakdownless music with leftfield structuring have obviously never tried to dance to that kind of shit.

Trance/prog-house resembling classical. What a crock. I can't even begin to see the connection. Big melodies and lots of pads do not equal modern classical. And more traditional trance and prog resemble classical even less.

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I'm impressed by the fact that we have a lot of psychics here who know for a fact that P. Diddy is only in it to exploit the dance market and he really hates techno/trance/house.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J NuDarkBeat, I'd like to point out what an idiot you are. Not only are you only two years older than Ory, your posts show that you're obviously less intelligent than him. I wouldn't resort to stereotyping everyone younger than you as stupid when you lack the capacity to follow an argument properly. EDM= EM. Wrong. Electronic Music in general and EDM in particular are quite different beasts. EDM is constructed for dancing, and most EDM follows strict guidelines and pre-determined techniques for inciting crowd reaction. Electronic music in general will often not have these features as it's created for listening to in your headphones. Although some people seem to think otherwise, a breakdown works well on a dancefloor. However, on your stereo it's a bit pointless. People who advocate breakdownless music with leftfield structuring have obviously never tried to dance to that kind of shit. Trance/prog-house resembling classical. What a crock. I can't even begin to see the connection. Big melodies and lots of pads do not equal modern classical. And more traditional trance and prog resemble classical even less.

I agree and disagree. I agree, NuDarkBeat is an idiot.

however,
you can dance to ANY type of music, whether it be nodding your head, or clapping your hands, or spinning around in circles, or whatever. shit, i'll dance to the sound of silverware falling on the floor.

and not necessarily prog-house, but i personally can see some correlation between classical and electronic music. they're definitely not the same, but the ideas are, somewhat- a lot of layered instruments to create one big sound. all of the effects complement each other much like a collection of violas complement violins.
also, listen to some trance tracks with "classical style" melodies... system f for example- tenshi, walhalla, solstice. how about barber's adagio for strings? finished symphony? if you rearranged all of a trance track's samples into classical stringed instruments and cut the beat, in many instances it would sound like a typical classical piece (which is unlike your typical four piece rock band, which in most cases will sound like rock no matter how you arrange it). so no, trance isn't classical.. but by today's standards, it's the closest a genre of popular music could get.

however, when it all comes down to it, NuDarkBeat is still a n00b.

Classical melodies don't mean it is classical in structure. You get trance that uses melodies you'd find in rock music... doesn't mean it has anything to do with rock. Trance is born from techno and acid house- any classical influences have only come later on in life, and in the most melodic-focussed echelon of trance.

And you can only dance to rhythm. Unless you're not much of a dancer. You can't dance to Samuel Barber's version of Adagio for Strings now, can you?

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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Hang on....

how can EDM be calssical when the classical genre is still well and truly alive?

I think it should be EDM trying to be classical.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Classical melodies don't mean it is classical in structure. You get trance that uses melodies you'd find in rock music... doesn't mean it has anything to do with rock. Trance is born from techno and acid house- any classical influences have only come later on in life, and in the most melodic-focussed echelon of trance. And you can only dance to rhythm. Unless you're not much of a dancer. You can't dance to Samuel Barber's version of Adagio for Strings now, can you?

true, true. i didn't mean classical in structure, just the closest genre of modern music that's comparable to classical... you would be more likely to find correlations between some trance music and classical than hip-hop and classical, or country, or rock, or reggaeton for that matter

meh, i suck at dancing.. but if you can move, you can dance. this is obviously just a technicality, but you COULD dance to anything. i COULD be dancing right now, as i type this message. but as for barber's adagio for strings... probably ballroom dancing or something? foxtrot maybe? i'm sure there's some ballerinas that could do some mad dancing to good ol' barber.