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Originally posted by culorut Another four/five posts which still cannot refute the claims made in the peer reviewed paper. Good job gentlemen.

Jesus, guys, when will you all learn that the FBI and CIA are not friends with the administration. Bush strikes blow after blow of disrespect to these agencies, any shady play with 9/11 would have had way LEAK after LEAK (willingly so by people on the inside).

I know dozens of people that died that day, if there's someone who wants the truth, it's me and the millions of people that live here. My dad worked there and he came home smelling like jet fuel with ashes all over his clothes and face. He said the entire building smelled of fuel, there was no insane underground explosion... It just kinda.... came down.... as he ran away from it.



Case closed.

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Originally posted by culorut So far I only notice ignorance in you, millions of people on a global scale continue to spread word of a truth

Millions of people, but no New Yorkers. Believe me, we did our hours- and days-long of research and we came up with nothing to refute what we saw and heard with our own eyes.

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Originally posted by culorut The official story does not hold enough weight to convince me (and millions of others) that these people deserved to die in such a manner.

Nobody's trying to convince you that they deserved to die. If you think that's what someone in disagreement with you is trying to do, then you've misinterpreted our message a bit much.

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Millions of people, but no New Yorkers. Believe me, we did our hours- and days-long of research and we came up with nothing to refute what we saw and heard with our own eyes.

I have to disagree, there are many people in New York including the rescue workers who strongly believe that the official story is white wash.

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Nobody's trying to convince you that they deserved to die. If you think that's what someone in disagreement with you is trying to do, then you've misinterpreted our message a bit much.

I know they did not deserve to die, I meant that the official story put out by the government and the hired agencies are not no where good enough to keep quiet on the subject. The thousands who did die cannot speak presently so the people who do know the official story is bullshit should make it known to everyone that justice was not served.

These same criminals are still running your country.

Tremendous paper written by NASA scientist Ryan Mackey, and illustrates why david ray griffin is nothing but a charlatan.


http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/drg_nist_review_2_0.doc

it's a long read but for those that preach their commitment to "truth" i would expect them to dive in head-first

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Originally posted by culorut I have to disagree, there are many people in New York including the rescue workers who strongly believe that the official story is white wash. I know they did not deserve to die, I meant that the official story put out by the government and the hired agencies are not no where good enough to keep quiet on the subject. The thousands who did die cannot speak presently so the people who do know the official story is bullshit should make it known to everyone that justice was not served. These same criminals are still running your country.

Our government is too inept to wipe their own ass without fucking up and getting exposed, much less getting away with something like 9/11. They tried outting a CIA operative and practically got shut down and put out to dry, "pwned" for those in the back. They tried lying about Iraq, and although this country fell for it, their lies are transparent and we've pretty much caught on, a few years later. They lie like 11 year olds who don't know how to keep a straight face when doing it. You're giving them WAYYYY too much credit to say they planned something so intricate as what any of the 9/11 conspiracies say they did. One of Bush's many enemies in the CIA would have leaked any semblance of foul play related to any planning of that day, in an instant. As for New Yorkers, don't tell me what the general belief is over here, me and jerZ07002 know for ourselves. We all fell into this conspiracy trap years before the international community, and we climbed right back out of it with a little common sense and ability to say "Hmmm wait a second." The average conspiracy theorist would tell the general public "Don't believe everything you're told," when it's themselves who need to follow the same advice. Joe Schmo with movie software and editing skills who just quit his day job and wants to spew his ideas on 9/11 on others doesn't necessarily know more than me and you. He's just a Joe Schmo with movie software and editing skills who just quit his day job. This is in no way a jab at you, just an effort to get you to question, "Wait a second... Who's behind these websites, documentaries, and personal conspiracy blogs?"... Conspiracy theorist literature is just as riveting and engrossing as a good-old mystery, romance, or erotic novel.

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Originally posted by culorut You are mad at people for looking into why thousands of innocent people died for no reason? Why not show your anger at your government that was warned from multiple countries that there was an attack coming well ahead of time? (FACT) RUSSIA www.whatreallyhappened.com/russianwarning.html IRAN www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jan/24/usa.september11 FRANCE http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Repor...e_911_0416.html EGYPT http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...755C0A9649C8B63 Let me guess you guys think the rest of world is lying but the same government which told you Iraq had WMD's are being honest with you on this one?

if foreign governments were warning the US that terrorists were going to attack, and that actually happened, why do you insist that it wasn't terrorists?

those articles don't support your theory, they only show that the US didn't take those threats as credible.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 those articles don't support your theory, they only show that the US didn't take those threats as credible.

I came to the same conclusion as well.......

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Originally posted by LazFX I came to the same conclusion as well.......

either that, or the threats weren't specific enough to actually stop them.


in any event, try again culorut because it doesn't help you.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Tremendous paper written by NASA scientist Ryan Mackey, and illustrates why david ray griffin is nothing but a charlatan. http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/drg_nist_review_2_0.doc it's a long read but for those that preach their commitment to "truth" i would expect them to dive in head-first

i skimmed this today on my lunch break, pretty well written and sourced, also avoided context issues while citing current research.

it just goes to show how selective the truth movement is when it picks its "evidence"


if you accuse a person of stealing a bike and enter the bike as evidence but neglect to mention the receipt that they had for the purchase of the bike, its a tad dishonest.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 either that, or the threats weren't specific enough to actually stop them. in any event, try again culorut because it doesn't help you.

You did not read the links provided then, the threats where very specific.

It astonishes me that everyone believes that the governemtn is not capable of pulling off 911/letting it happen (same difference really). They already lied about WMD's and over 1 MILLION Iraqi's are dead, yet they are still in power smiling and lying in your face.

Maybe everyone likes to turn a blind eye to murders and criminals but when people all around the world raise some dam good questions these millions of people must be crazy....

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Originally posted by culorut You did not read the links provided then, the threats where very specific. It astonishes me that everyone believes that the governemtn is not capable of pulling off 911/letting it happen (same difference really). They already lied about WMD's and over 1 MILLION Iraqi's are dead, yet they are still in power smiling and lying in your face. Maybe everyone likes to turn a blind eye to murders and criminals but when people all around the world raise some dam good questions these millions of people must be crazy....

Stop using the expression "millions". You have absolutely no way to verify that there are indeed millions of truthers. Indeed, all the evidence is to the contrary.

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Originally posted by culorut It astonishes me that everyone believes that the governemtn is not capable of pulling off 911/letting it happen (same difference really).

No, it's not the same difference. They are very different. Planning an attack on your own country is not the same as having your head up your ass too far to see an attack coming. It's like a soccer player who turns 180 and shoots on his own net vs. a soccer player who's asleep in defense and gets pwned. Those aren't the same, man, sorry.

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