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Originally posted by ZinG Who'se gonna do all the dirty work?

Dirty americans

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen 8. Giving citizenship to Mexican illegal immagrants. They are here illegally, they are breaking the law, why reward that?

- Well, I agree with the rest of things you've said, and I would actually add more. But this about giving citizenship to illegal Mexicans, well, Im sure he hasen't done that. Also, this illegal imigrants are the workforce on farming and all the agricultural jobs, and well, without them we wouldn't be getting all the foods and lots of other things, americans don't do that kind of job, they do, and by making legal all the illegal imigrants, will pump up the economy so much, I'm not talking just about the mexican ones, there's so many illegal professionals out there that will pump up the economy, so if tomorrow every imigrant becomes a resident lets say, a pay a fine of lets say $3,000 each one, imagine how much money the gov'y will get just from that, plus, the income tax collection and so on, it will generate so much money, plus they will spend more since they will have a stable job and so on.. even Greenspan said it.

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giving citzenship to Mexican immigrants is not necessarily such a bad thing. there have always been govt policies to encourage and allow the shift of immigration when labor was needed (ie the 1950s). and if the US had allowed Mexico to build up its industrial infrastructure at the same pace as the US, instead of taking that labor for granted, it wouldnt be a problem.

its the same problem with Africa. sure, you dont want your money going to Africa, but then again Africa was decimated by slave trading and colonialization. tho those problems arent squarely *only* american.

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If you give a man a fish he will eat for a day, if you teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime.

you cant teach a person to cure himself of AIDS, but prevention measures have to come from somewhere. not helping is like pretending the black plague never existed...

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen 8. Giving citizenship to Mexican illegal immagrants. They are here illegally, they are breaking the law, why reward that? Your ideas please...

I'm sure they probably built the house/apartment you live in, and picked the produce you've eaten in the past week. Some of them also fought and died (including my Great-grandfather) so that you could be free to speak your hatred towards them....

We need immigration reform...one of the only things I agree with Bush about.

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well he's only doing it for cooperate america man

True.

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Well, since I am half Latino I would say that you are wrong about the hatred part. My Mexican-immigrant grandfather fought in WW2 in the pacific. This has nothing to do with hatred. This has to do with breaking laws and border control. As for the house I live in, well, it was built by a construction company, and I seriously doubt that they used illegal labor for it. Especially when you consider the strict building codes they have to meet (trust me, I know, I just fished helping my dad build his house). As for agriculture, if the illegal immigrants were made legal then they could get minimum wage and then the price of produce would go through the roof so I seriouly doubt that this is about cheap labor. BTW, I have a lot of LEGAL immigrant family that works as California farm workers and California is the biggest produce producer in the world. Can you guys start giving me some educated/experienced replies now?

Maybe you should start posting some educated responses intead of using your own reasons, experiences, stories, and life as a way to argue your point. You justify your answers by refering to you own experiences

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Well, since I am half Latino I would say that you are wrong about the hatred part. My Mexican-immigrant grandfather fought in WW2 in the pacific. This has nothing to do with hatred. This has to do with breaking laws and border control. As for the house I live in, well, it was built by a construction company, and I seriously doubt that they used illegal labor for it. Especially when you consider the strict building codes they have to meet (trust me, I know, I just fished helping my dad build his house). As for agriculture, if the illegal immigrants were made legal then they could get minimum wage and then the price of produce would go through the roof so I seriouly doubt that this is about cheap labor. BTW, I have a lot of LEGAL immigrant family that works as California farm workers and California is the biggest produce producer in the world. Can you guys start giving me some educated/experienced replies now?

LoL dude, you tell us to give educated/experience replies and so on, and at least in my eyes you are the one looking bad. First of all, farmers in California and all over the farming states, there is illegal imigrants working, as well in construction areas, maybe not building the 5 stars hotels, but other things, they do the painting, they do the gardening, and a bunch of other things that Americans won't do, and that's why the US government it's not going to the farming industries to raid them. For more info to you, why do you think Vicente Fox (Mexican president) came to talk to Bush?!?! About the Oil in mexico and, for Bush to legalize all the illegal imigrants working here, and have them become residents or have benefits such as health care and so on, also, they are cheap labor as mentioned. And well, they aren't only mexicans but also from other central american countries. Many don't just cross the borders but come through VISA and just stay passed the time due their stay.

And for my own experience, here in Florida, I know many of contractors and companies that have illegal imigrants painting buildings, working on the gardening, passing out newspapers, changing floor tiles, and a bunch bunch of other works. And this imigrants didn't come from the borders, but through the airports. So man, you can't come and say that they come and do the bad things here, in fact, they stabilize the economy, and the US government does not want to recognize that, but if you remove all the illegal imigrants, then we are talking big problem. I know that them crossing the borders is bad and stuff, I know, then the job there is to reinforce that part, but, after all, the US ends up winning. Remove all the illegal imigrants from those areas I mentioned, and pray for food man.

From what I read from you, I take it as if you would rather have the borders reinforced, but heaviny illegal imigrants not getting the citizenship, it's worst then heaving them not legal. Just do some logical thinking about.

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen I see what you are saying. I'll think about it. I have no response at this time.

OWNED

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I would love that

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen I bet you would , you slack-jawed, knocked-kneed, no good, god damn, dick licking, freeloading, golden showers lovin, son of a donkey fucking bitch.

How old are you again?

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