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no, those must not have been them. I tried a bunch on, some big silver sonys that looked sorta like that, without the double headband though, and i think i had them confused with some other ones that had the double headband.
in anycase, i need DJ cans, not just for personal listening. and i'm not spending $600 US for headphones anyway 
but thanks for the help. if my sennheisers sound good after the reccomended 40-100 hours of burn in, i might keep them, otherwise, i am sending them back.
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