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Originally posted by DaveSaenz If you use a deck with a old needle, can it damage your records? I'm just starting to collect vinyls, and I have an old sony turtable (like early 90s). I'm hoping it won't damage my records if I play them on that until I can get a better table/needle. How often should you change the needle/?? Thanks, David p.s. Also how many times can U typically spin a record before it gets "worn out?"

I also was wondering this... seeing that the needles that I have require that I set the counter-weight to almost the max to avoid skippage. Anyone have any ideas?

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Originally posted by Blithe I also was wondering this... seeing that the needles that I have require that I set the counter-weight to almost the max to avoid skippage. Anyone have any ideas?

This is exactly one of the reasons why Shure White Labels are the best on the market, you have to do complete opposite with them, unscrew counter weight almost completely off that is. Needle won't skip and record wear is virtually non existent.

Keeping counter weight almost all the way forward will definately have a record wear, thus I won't even keep my Ortofon Pro DJ S concordes as back ups, they are simply POS compare to Shure White Labels.

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are you saying loosining the screw and not tightening it? Just leaveing it loose?

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Originally posted by CarlosM too bad I hear that.. i just have bought a pair of Trackmaster II but i havent prove thems since i dont have the mixer.... but im a little upset now

this info couldve been more helfull to me LAST WEEK when i purchased my carts

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Question from a newbie DJ:

Most TTs have pre-mounted cart/needles already. I'm using the pre-mounted ones ATM but considering buying the White Lables. My question is

1)Does changing the cart/needles really help alot to record wear?

I know that changing to good cart/needle can make your sound came out better but I personally don't have a "bomb" sound system.........it's just some regular speakers. But

2)Does the sound still stands out even if you don't have a nice sound system? (compare to pre-mounted carts)

My pre-moundted cart/needles are brand new...............but if White Lables can really help on the record wear/sound then I'll definitely change it

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Originally posted by Arsalan this info couldve been more helfull to me LAST WEEK when i purchased my carts

Yeah, Same here.

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Originally posted by TranceLuver4evr Question from a newbie DJ: Most TTs have pre-mounted cart/needles already. I'm using the pre-mounted ones ATM but considering buying the White Lables. My question is 1)Does changing the cart/needles really help alot to record wear? I know that changing to good cart/needle can make your sound came out better but I personally don't have a "bomb" sound system.........it's just some regular speakers. But 2)Does the sound still stands out even if you don't have a nice sound system? (compare to pre-mounted carts) My pre-moundted cart/needles are brand new...............but if White Lables can really help on the record wear/sound then I'll definitely change it

Yes to both questions, even if your speakers and amp are not upto par, the right needle can make the sound much richer, clearer, sharper which all equal to a much better sound, and the record wear with shure whitelabels is almost non existent.

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I love the Ortofon Concorde much, looks nice, sounds nice...

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Originally posted by Push2005 Ik ben net terug begonnen met cassettes op te kopen... Die pitchcontrol is echt ongelofelijk !

Anyone know how much wear a Shure Whitelabel would produce on a record compared to an Ortofon Nightclub with an eliptical tip?

About to buy new carts and the shure's sound rather promising

heh , i have a pair of stanton 500's never changed them for about 3 year lol, its about time i got a new pair...think ill try some of them sures then

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Originally posted by TwiloThunder Anyone know how much wear a Shure Whitelabel would produce on a record compared to an Ortofon Nightclub with an eliptical tip? About to buy new carts and the shure's sound rather promising

First why an elliptical tip? Those are for recording, not for playing out. Second, with any Ortofon Concorde style needle, you'll HAVE TO push the counterweight on the tonearm pretty much all the way forward in order for the needle to get a grip on the record, and sometimes all the way forward isn't enough. Thus you create a lot of record wear, but you won't be able to tell for quite a while unless you play the same record over and over. With Shure WhiteLabels, the counterweight is almost all the way back so there isn't any extra pressure on the needle to make contact with the record, because of the head forward design, the needle doesn't actually make a full on contact with the record, as other needles have to, it sort of glides on top, and man can they hold a record without any skips, wow. So with a bare minimal contact with the record and counterweight being almost all the way back, the record wear is pretty much NON EXISTENT. And lets not forget about how much BETTER whitelabels sound than Ortofons. I've even sold my Ortofon Concorde Pro DJ S(blues). wouldn't even use them as my back ups. If for some unimaginable reason the styli breaks on me on my whitelabels, the replacement ones are 40% cheaper then styli for Ortofons. Another huge plus....

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Seems I'll have to review my opinion about them concordes... I read some reviews about those shures, they're indeed better...

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Originally posted by Push2005 Ik ben net terug begonnen met cassettes op te kopen... Die pitchcontrol is echt ongelofelijk !