hey thanks everyone.ive tried everything that you hav suggested and i think im getting a bit better.

i have another question for you tho.when i know the bpm of 2 tunes how do i get them to match up,im a little confused as to the +2 and +4 etc.is that just simply if a tune is at 140bpm wen the pitch slider is at 0 and you move it to +2 it will be at 142bpm?cause i counted the bpm for a couple of tunes and then tried to match them up and it was way way out.
i know im asking some stupid questions here but i have to get the answers somewhere.
thanks a lot guys.

basically, yes. im no professional, but thats how a good way to look at it. beat matchging is trying to get 2 tunes playing at the same speed then. the pitch slider either slows a tune or speeds it up.

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Originally posted by lesprock hey thanks everyone.ive tried everything that you hav suggested and i think im getting a bit better. i have another question for you tho.when i know the bpm of 2 tunes how do i get them to match up,im a little confused as to the +2 and +4 etc.is that just simply if a tune is at 140bpm wen the pitch slider is at 0 and you move it to +2 it will be at 142bpm?cause i counted the bpm for a couple of tunes and then tried to match them up and it was way way out. i know im asking some stupid questions here but i have to get the answers somewhere. thanks a lot guys.

The pitch slider increases and decreases in percents. 140bpm record with +6% is not 146bpm but rather... 148.4bpm. Don't worry about the questions, that's why we're here. And I'm sure someone else who read this didn't know the answer.

Good questions...I might as well take advantage of the attention. Is there any use for the pitch bend? As far as I can tell its only temporary but I'm used to Traktor where you can use it to fine tune the permanent pitch. Stupid, I know...Thanks for the help.

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there is no use for pitch bend on a turntable, at least imo. I've never used tracktor, but in VTT, the pitch bend lets you move the pitch, and have it "snap" back to the original place. quite helpful actually, if that was on my techs i would use it.

however, the great thing about vinyl is, you can just touch the label to make it go a little faster, by lightly pressing in a circular direction in the direction the records already spinning, with your fingers as close to the spindle as possible.

if you need to slow it down, you can drag your fingers on the pitch dots.

however, even better than this (smoother, less noticeable when the track is live) is to just move the pitch up a little bit, and then back down (or vice versa if it's to slow) it's a little more difficult, but a superior way of doing a pitch bend.


BTW, very nice taste in trance you got there mate, those are some of my favorites.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith there is no use for pitch bend on a turntable, at least imo.... quite helpful actually, if that was on my techs i would use it.

Well, I have em on my PT-2400's, but I never use them.. Just using your fingers is far more accurate.

Besides, if I'll get used to the pitch bend too much, I may be in trouble when I use decks that don't have em (which are pretty much most decks, including industry standard Tech 1200's)..

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Normally I just nudge record B forwards. If it get's further out of time, then it's going to fast. If it gets back in time its too slow, then just adjust the pitch.

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Hmm...thanks for the input. I have a pair of Gemini XL-500 IIs that have a pitch bend but I haven't really been able to put to use. I guess now would be a good time to start messing with the finger method....

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Originally posted by JohnSmith BTW, very nice taste in trance you got there mate, those are some of my favorites.

Thanks

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Originally posted by Ghostface Normally I just nudge record B forwards. If it get's further out of time, then it's going to fast. If it gets back in time its too slow, then just adjust the pitch.

thats the way its done

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When I first started, I couldn't tell which record was moving faster. So, I would take the record that I wanted to add to the mix, and begin monitoring it through the headphones. Periodically, I would tap the vinyl to slow it down (tap the second record). After a few taps, the records would be matched - usually. As soon as the beats synch up, you will notice it. It sounds like heaven Inevitably, the records would fall out of sync again. This is where I would change the pitch a bit, tap the record again, and see what happens. Soon you will start to hear the differences. That's how I learned, and it worked for me. Hope that helps!

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yeah i agree with loki i did something the same .. what i always do if it's a new song i just brought i always listen 4 a min to track A then i switch and listen to track B .. and then i know witch one is faster .. ( not always but most of the time you can hear ) and then adjust the pitch ... and if you do that for a year you will great a some sort of feeling and then you adjust the pitch much faster