DJM 500 doesn't have a booth output, right? I think that is one of the bigger differences. If you aren't familiar, a booth output gives you an additional line out so you can have a monitor speaker facing you, without disrupting the main outputs. You will need sound directed toward you to effectively beatmatch and mix

Anyway, I think that is the biggest drawback, but since I don't own either, I can't be totally sure.

Seriously, save some cash and get a blemished Rane mixer. You won't be disappointed (you can spend a little extra and get an extended warranty too). For $900 bucks you can get a crazy good mixer and a Kaoss Pad ... that's $200 less than you would spend on a brand new DJM 600. And if you don't like it, MusiciansFriend will allow you to get a full refund! They have a 45 day customer satisfaction period. A can't lose deal, if you ask me

If you are stuck on the Pioneers, then I would recommend the 600. If the booth output is truly a difference, then I say spend the extra money and get the 600.

Loki

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check the pioneer website for all the info you'll ever need about the differences between the 500 and 600...
funny how the info about their mixers is right there on the website

www.pioneerprodj.com

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Thats besides the point, im not completely ignorant, but im asking for a suggestion on which one to purchase

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Originally posted by Vlad Thats besides the point, im not completely ignorant, but im asking for a suggestion on which one to purchase

maybe i've been on this message board too long...
but why does everyone need a suggestion?

it seems like every week someone is asking if they should get this or that

i'm just wondering why people just can't look at product specs or go test them in person... sure it's a lot of money to be investing and you want to be sure, but if i were dropping a large chunk of cash i'd rather do my own research instead of relying on other people to make my decision for me

think of it this way, you're taking a test that's going to fail you or pass you, you don't want to be copying off the kid that's drooling beside you, you do your own work

maybe it's just me

and you know what everyone is going to suggest: 2 technics 1200 m3d and a pioneer djm-600

just figure out what YOU need, then find a product that fits YOUR needs

if you think you need auto BPM counters, then get auto BPM counters
if you think you need effects, then get effects

ultimately it's YOU that's going to be using it
so YOU should make the choice

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Last edited by Tony Morello on May-01-2003 at 07:53

Everyone already told me about the Tech's M3D, but I think Id rather go for the MKII's because of the quarts lock, Id rather get used to that groove in the middle of the pitch fader, so in the case that I do use the M3D the smooth movement of the pitch fader wont bother me.

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As stated, there is a wealth of information on Pioneer's website....there's even a table which lists the features of all the mixers side-by-side.

That said, here are some key differences: First of all, the 500 does have a booth output, as does the 600.

600 has better EQ cuts: -26db vs -20 on the 500.
600 has split-cue headphone monitoring vs headphone EQ on the 500.
600 has more effects + the sampler
500 has more inputs & outputs, but the 600 has the recording output.

There are others, but I recommend doing your
own homework: obviously you have internet access, so read the product manuals - they're available on Pioneer's website. Also if possible, use both mixers and see which one you like.

If you come back with some more specific questions after doing some research, feel free to post & we'll be happy to respond.

Cheers.

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Originally posted by Arsalan i seen in some videos where pvd uses effect boxes and such, check out his mayday video i think he plays around with one. i would think that they only play around with effect boxes, samplers and such at big events , i dont think they will bother with small events.

pvd definitely does.. he used one of those pioneer beat and fx pads when he was at Exit here...

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I run a djm-600. Personally i think the sampler is pants, and so is the BPM counter. But having the BPM counter is useful in that it phrases all the effects. The flanger, filter and transform are the only really usefull ones in my opinion.

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i think all you need on mixers are the basics (gain etc), eq and level lights, bpm is jus cheating yourself but it would be very interesting with a sampler lol

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