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Nabistai
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quote:
Originally posted by Hootchis
one more question for you guys, since you all seem to be so helpful.
Do you ever use the VU meter to just the pitch of the cued track compared to the present outgoing track. Or do you just simply you use your ears to judge everything.


Don't use any help, no beatcounters, no VU meters. Forget about the bloody BMP's. When you listening to the bass of track A, go to track B and 'guess' what % you should put it at and then compare. The more you do this and the more expierienced you get, the more chance you get that your on it from the first time!


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quote:
Originally posted by Nabistai
Don't use any help, no beatcounters, no VU meters. Forget about the bloody BMP's. When you listening to the bass of track A, go to track B and 'guess' what % you should put it at and then compare. The more you do this and the more expierienced you get, the more chance you get that your on it from the first time!


Amen brother, heed this advice well if you want to become a club DJ! You must rely on only your own ears, what happens if you go to a club and the meters are busted (rare, but it can happen), thats you screwed up when working out the levels. What happens when you goto a venue and one of the tables is poorly calobrated (happens more than you think), can't use BPM's to work out pitch then. What happens if you rely on BPM counters and you go to play a set and there is no BPM counter there, you are screwed. Trust only your ears, that way you can adapt to any situation and make the other DJ's look bad

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Tiger777
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besides, BPM counters suck, Most of the time they're not accurate at all...


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Ik ben net terug begonnen met cassettes op te kopen... Die pitchcontrol is echt ongelofelijk !

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[N]ûk|êû[Z]
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Registered: Sep 2001
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to be honest, i dont use any form of counting or any method mathcing other than my ears...... i dont want this to sound big headed in anyway but after youve been micxing a while (ive had my decks 8 years).. you can tell by the sound of a mix in cue if it needs slowing or speeding, i cant explain it, but its just becomes natural to you.


the only time i ever use any methods, is when im mixing a track i dont know, then i count beats and bars for the next break


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raveanddie
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quote:
Originally posted by Ghostface
lovin the cdj100's master tempo



im just wondering ... what is the MASTER TEMPO ACTUALLY USED FOR?

i have it on my CMX3000

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Master tempo allows you to control the pitch without changing the key. Usually I can tell right off if someone is using though because it has a tendency to mess up the track and skip sometimes, so I avoid it.


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djmorph
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What if you've performed surgery on your TT's n modified the pitch screw inside. Cuz thats what I did. However, i really didn't notice a huge difference in pitch change. I would imagine then that after adjusting that screw in ther that those pitch levels would be different. Anyone have any info on this?

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raveanddie
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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear
Master tempo allows you to control the pitch without changing the key. Usually I can tell right off if someone is using though because it has a tendency to mess up the track and skip sometimes, so I avoid it.



so you are saying , whenever we mix .. the master tempo has to be always on?

i did notice that my mixing became a bit better when i turned on master tempo.

btw, what do you mean by changing the key?

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IntegraR0064
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quote:
Originally posted by raveanddie
so you are saying , whenever we mix .. the master tempo has to be always on?

i did notice that my mixing became a bit better when i turned on master tempo.

btw, what do you mean by changing the key?


Key is like...the frequency of the sound. You know how when you speed up a track way too much the voices sound like chipmunks, and when you slow it down too much everyone sounds like arnold schwarzenegger? That's because the key is changed as well as the tempo.

By what has been said here, i'm assuming the master tempo on those is like on my str8-100s's "key correction", where you move the pitch slider, but it doesn't change the key. Then if you sped it up too much, the voice wouldn't be all chipmunky...since the key is the same, only the tempo is different. It would just sound like the person is talking/singing really fast. It's an amazing feature...

Damn...that's harder to explain than i thought. Hope that helps.

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kr00t0n
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quote:
Originally posted by IntegraR0064
Key is like...the frequency of the sound. You know how when you speed up a track way too much the voices sound like chipmunks, and when you slow it down too much everyone sounds like arnold schwarzenegger? That's because the key is changed as well as the tempo.

By what has been said here, i'm assuming the master tempo on those is like on my str8-100s's "key correction", where you move the pitch slider, but it doesn't change the key. Then if you sped it up too much, the voice wouldn't be all chipmunky...since the key is the same, only the tempo is different. It would just sound like the person is talking/singing really fast. It's an amazing feature...

Damn...that's harder to explain than i thought. Hope that helps.


It works by cutting away tiny sections of the track at regular intervals, making the track play quicker, but not at a higher frequency, and when it slows down, it adds a reverb/echo type effect (which sounds REALLY crap if you slow down too much).

Thats why the accuracy goes a bit off the more you use it, coz the frequency of the clips isnt necessarily in time with the beat structure.


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