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Originally posted by ahlamalek I know, but trying to end discussion by presenting a lame excuse is just... lame

So if it's a lame excuse argue your point intelligentely to point out how it doesn't address the issue in its entirety. It was more or less a comment to provoke further embellishment of your argument since your original statement was two sentences long.

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it does not deminish the fervor of some, what it does, it removes popular support for these crazy ideas. poor and hungry people support extreme ways, and its a known tendacy for a while now...

Well some can say that pre-emptive wars could strike just as big of a blow to terrorism as eliminating hunger, and maybe even more. By attacking a host country you eliminate the number of governments that host or financially support terrorism through the use of force or the threat of force. Which constitutes a greater threat ... a terrorist backed by tens of thousands of hungry, poor people or the terrorist backed by the funds and resources of a government?

Additionally, most terrorist organisations are not founded on the objective of achieving social welfare. If so then Africa should be the largest source of terrorism on the world tenfold. Most terrorist organizations are politically motivated, and as such, ************ of how much the US devotes towards aid it would likely accomplish little in the way of reducing terrorism..

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Originally posted by occrider Additionally, most terrorist organisations are not founded on the objective of achieving social welfare. If so then Africa should be the largest source of terrorism on the world tenfold. Most terrorist organizations are politically motivated, and as such, ************ of how much the US devotes towards aid it would likely accomplish little in the way of reducing terrorism..

But Africa IS one of the largest source of terrorism and violence?!!??! Look at Algeria, Subsaharian Africa, South Africa, Rwanda et al., Sierra Leone, Mozambique, etc etc

Do you mean that if Americans aren't involved, it doesn't count as terrorism?!?!

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well...this thread took a total detour...n e ways, eliminating the threat of 'terrorist' iraq was bushes game. now that saddam is gone has suicide bombings in israel gone down? i dunno....just a thought.

btw, how is africa one of the world's largest sources of terrorism in the world?

rwanda and sierra leone don't 'export' their terrorism to other nations, rather, parts of africa are the world's most concentrated areas of civil war....where rebels use things like diamonds, cocoa, and that crap they put in cell phones (what's it called...someone help me out...tungsten?) to fund their activities. activities which solely focus on ousting the government's of those countries.

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Originally posted by marcus82 well...this thread took a total detour...n e ways, eliminating the threat of 'terrorist' iraq was bushes game. now that saddam is gone has suicide bombings in israel gone down? i dunno....just a thought. btw, how is africa one of the world's largest sources of terrorism in the world? rwanda and sierra leone don't 'export' their terrorism to other nations, rather, parts of africa are the world's most concentrated areas of civil war....where rebels use things like diamonds, cocoa, and that crap they put in cell phones (what's it called...someone help me out...tungsten?) to fund their activities. activities which solely focus on ousting the government's of those countries.

Agreed ... largest sources of terrorism in the world:

Spain, N. Ireland, Chechnya, South America, and Middle East. I can't think of one terrorist group that is indigenous to Africa. And I can't imagine that any of these terrorist groups that would be any weaker if there was no hunger in the world.

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There are some in north africa, mainly in the muslim states like Egypt or Algeria. One of them planted a car-bomb in Rijeka, Croatia few years ago after we turned in their leader to CIA officials. Gamma al Islamya I believe it was called.

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geographically yes...those countries are 'african', but do your refer to middle east counties are asian or middle east? in a technical sense they are asian, but recently 'muslim states' have been affliated with the 'middle east', which is still a part of asia...

so maybe we should generalize asia and say...all of asia is a hotbed for terrorism?

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