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ChavezHype
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto

yea but flesch does it not stay in-sync like he's saying? Like when you're trying to get your pitch for the perfect increment it will slip to differnt one during your mix? Making you have to fiddle with the pitch constantly during your mix? Or is the problem you think just because people weren't putting their pitch settings to the technics standard of 8%? I'm just suprised... I've found this problem at other places as well, but it seems uncommon, while most djs seem to have no problem beatmatching their trance/house and other likewise genres that are purely mix with the turntable.

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Nabistai
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I don't have a ttx1 but I assume that the system is exactly the same as with cdj100's which I do have. In that case I don't get what the hell you people are complaining about


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ChavezHype
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Registered: Aug 2002
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I found out what I think the problem is. Unless you've already tried this zizack and u4ea then it should clear things up. You may only select pitch ranges of 10%, 20% and 50% as well as the technics 8%, however you must hold the pitch button down for 2 seconds and then it switches to the ‘classic’ 8% mode. Also, after you do th this, the pitch range indicators will not indicate what mode you're in (the 8% mode) - (it either illuminates 10,20 or 50). That puts you in the proper mode for regualr mixing, and the pitch will be like that of the technics, however you will only "see" on pitch percentage on the LCD 10ths of percentages, however this does not mean it doesn't go into hundreths, as the tempo does change.
If you guys already tried this, then i don't know what happened.

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Dj Flesch
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Registered: Aug 2001
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yea but flesch does it not stay in-sync like he's saying? Like when you're trying to get your pitch for the perfect increment it will slip to differnt one during your mix? Making you have to fiddle with the pitch constantly during your mix? Or is the problem you think just because people weren't putting their pitch settings to the technics standard of 8%? I'm just suprised... I've found this problem at other places as well, but it seems uncommon, while most djs seem to have no problem beatmatching their trance/house and other likewise genres that are purely mix with the turntable.


I've never had a problem beatmatching with either my TTX1 or my CDJ-100s. I don't mean to bash on anyone, but if the tracks aren't aligned, then you can't beatmatch as well as you thought you could. Don't blame the equipment because you aren't familiar with it. How long did you give it zizack, two days at most? It took me years to learn how to beatmatch perfectly and learn how to precisely tweak my equipment! You have to be patient and give yourself a chance to learn the tiny nuances of the table because every piece of equipment is slightly different. How long have you been spinning, and with what equipment? In my opinion, you didn't even give your tables a chance. You sided with someone who didn't like it because they didn't give it a chance either and returned them based on an uninformed opinion. When u4ea contacted Numark, they didn't lie to him, they just confirmed to me that he can't beatmatch as well as he thought.


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Zack Roth
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Originally posted by Dj Flesch
I've never had a problem beatmatching with either my TTX1 or my CDJ-100s. I don't mean to bash on anyone, but if the tracks aren't aligned, then you can't beatmatch as well as you thought you could. Don't blame the equipment because you aren't familiar with it. How long did you give it zizack, two days at most? It took me years to learn how to beatmatch perfectly and learn how to precisely tweak my equipment! You have to be patient and give yourself a chance to learn the tiny nuances of the table because every piece of equipment is slightly different. How long have you been spinning, and with what equipment? In my opinion, you didn't even give your tables a chance. You sided with someone who didn't like it because they didn't give it a chance either and returned them based on an uninformed opinion. When u4ea contacted Numark, they didn't lie to him, they just confirmed to me that he can't beatmatch as well as he thought.


I have only been DJing for a few months, but I have used other tables where beatmatching wasn't nearly as complicated. Also, as soon as I started using it, I got the feeling that I was playing with a toy, rather than a legit turntable. I didn't like the bpm counter or all the digital readouts, and I came to the realization, after having difficulty with the pitch salider, that I should have goen with my initial instict, spent more money, and got the technics right away.

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u4ea
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Washington DC

Zizack, you made the right decision...I know you'll be a happier DJ with the 1200s

No offense DJ Flesch, your posts are always well thought out and very insightful. A few months ago, I was checking around with other TTX1 users to see if they were having the same problem that I had...sure enough they did. You were the only one that said the TTX1s were not the problem. You also stated that you were using the 20% range pitch setting. I tried this, but to no avail. I preferred the 8% setting but still couldn't get my tunes to stay synched. I returned the TTX1s (with a tear in my eye...those tables are so damn sexy), and came home with 1200s. After a few hours of practicing, I noticed a dramatic difference in how well the tunes stay synched. I put out demos after that and even picked up a few spots here in DC, I'm very happy with the Technics tables.

My apologies in my previous quote, I am not 100% sure that the TTX1s are digital pitch, they just responded that way. I don't want to misinform anybody. It could be possible that I had 2 faulty tables...who knows. Beats were drifting after 1/2-1 phrase. I do know that I couldn't keep tunes synched the way I wanted them to, so I took action. I started off on Gemini PT1000s, and they could hold pitch better than the TTX1s.

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