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well i put too much texta on that time, and then i realised it was permanent. lucky i have a bottle of vodka next to me!!

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Originally posted by bassaholix Actually... no.. u are not allowed to make a BACKUP copy of an AUDIO cd that you bought... those are the rules of copyright.. you are aloowed to copy software, like windows 2000 cd or whatever. No backup copies of Audio CD's allowed.. period..

errrrrrm.....

you really gotta learn that it isnt in fact the copyright that you are buying when you buy a cd, it is in fact a licence of that product... what people talk about in terms of "backup cds" is in actual fact... uhhh.... backup cds - meaning that if you buy a copy of microsoft office 2000, you legally own one licence of that product - meaning only one computer is allowed to have the software installed at one time. thats pretty well the whole reason why people call them backup cds, because you can just keep a copy in case the original gets trashed, lost, whatever, you can give the software to friends, just as long as you dont continue using it for yourself

i did a loooottta research into this on a gaming forum, if you have any questions, just pm me

ok, this texta thing IS working!

ive got first 4 tracks so far, but its a lot of trial and error, and being neat

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SO the texta does work?

i dont have a stereo atm and cant listen to my LEGALLY bought b & j album. Really pisses me off, as i bought it fair and square, and cant listen to it...

im off to do the texta thing too

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new Radiohead Cd has the protection as well, and just on a side note - Hail To The Thief FUCKIN ROCKS!!!!!!

Radiohead have created another amazing album, good work boys!!!

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Originally posted by gumble ok, this texta thing IS working! ive got first 4 tracks so far, but its a lot of trial and error, and being neat

Use a compass

I don't condone copying CDs for any illegal purpose

THE tool for this job is Exact Audio Copy

I've been able to rip quite a few copy protected CDs and burn them out as something useable in a CDJ-1000/PC/etc

Make sure you go into advanced mode, and enable "Secure Copy" and "Secure Gap Detection".

On some Cactus-100 or Cactus-200 protected discs you may need to use "Detect TOC manually" to find the actual tracks.

What follows is a bit of a technical explaination of how Cactus Datashield works.

Basically, a normal (stamped) audio CD has only one TOC (Table Of Contents), showing the player where all the tracks are.

However, there's also multi-session discs. What they do is have multiple TOCs, with the last always being considered the "proper" one.

MOST consumer grade CD players will only read the first TOC if the following TOCs are corrupted. Cactus plays on this fact. They put a valid TOC in first, and an invalid one (that points tracks to the "null" area). The normal audio players will use the first, PCs the second.

They also put a "null" area on some discs (the band you can see near the outer disc). This area is full of specially corrupted sub-data. This sub-data is normally used as a "ecc-parity". If you scratch a normal disc, the player can figure out what /should/ have been in this area using the sub-data.

Normal players won't have a problem because the "normal" TOC doesn't point into the null area. The corrupted TOC however does.

This TOC can also contain "bad" data, pointing to areas outside the physical disc, tracks that end before they start and other nasties.

Of course, none of this is a real challenge to get around, and in fact, software for doing so has been around longer than the protection itself, to-whit, cd-paranoia under *nix

Some of what I said above may be a bit confused. That's what 4am calls about tricky DNS problems does to my cognitive abilities

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Originally posted by -=M=- errrrrrm..... you really gotta learn that it isnt in fact the copyright that you are buying when you buy a cd, it is in fact a licence of that product... what people talk about in terms of "backup cds" is in actual fact... uhhh.... backup cds - meaning that if you buy a copy of microsoft office 2000, you legally own one licence of that product - meaning only one computer is allowed to have the software installed at one time. thats pretty well the whole reason why people call them backup cds, because you can just keep a copy in case the original gets trashed, lost, whatever, you can give the software to friends, just as long as you dont continue using it for yourself i did a loooottta research into this on a gaming forum, if you have any questions, just pm me

Only problem is that only applies for computer programs, not for music CDs. The Copyright Act does not contain any fair use provisions to allow you to make backup or alternative media copies of music, and so any time you do so, you are probably infringing the copyright (I say probably cause the legislation is not the only source of law, there's probably a bit of case law that is relavent. Anyway the Act to read is the Copyright Act 1968 which can be found on Auslii at http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/..._act/ca1968133/

And yeah, although I know the legalities of it, I don't believe that the laws are ones that I should adhere to, as they have too many shortcomings and haven't changed enough to match the availability of technology today.

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I was led to believe at some point in the past that case law had held that transfer of music from one media to another was legal IF THE ORIGINAL MEDIA WAS UNUSABLE by the person who bought it.

The cavet emptor to that may well be that the ruling was made about analog media, so held that the quality loss made the likelyhood of piracy low.

Do take what I just said the a ton or so of salt, as I said, I probably do not know what I'm saying here. I certainly haven't privately done the research to back up those statements

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Originally posted by -=M=- errrrrrm..... you really gotta learn that it isnt in fact the copyright that you are buying when you buy a cd, it is in fact a licence of that product... what people talk about in terms of "backup cds" is in actual fact... uhhh.... backup cds - meaning that if you buy a copy of microsoft office 2000, you legally own one licence of that product - meaning only one computer is allowed to have the software installed at one time. thats pretty well the whole reason why people call them backup cds, because you can just keep a copy in case the original gets trashed, lost, whatever, you can give the software to friends, just as long as you dont continue using it for yourself i did a loooottta research into this on a gaming forum, if you have any questions, just pm me

Well fuck me.. lol.. i was just trying to help! .. don't get bitchy on me.. hahaha

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ok, well i don't care much for legalities or whatever.

fuck it, im copying this cd.

anyway, ive heard that its all done in complete disredard for some FAIR USE POLICY in some random countries set in some random year.

the point is i want to listen to this cd, i dont actaully have a cd player other than my discman, so im copying it onto my comp.

im gonna try what bragi suggested, texta thing got me first 4 tracks.



Copy Control Technology has no PLUR!

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