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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Hmm, let's see...

1. US
2. China
3. Russia
4. India
5. Germany
6. France
7. Japan


Ok, I guess I'd put you in the 8th place.


lmao, u obviously know fuck all bout world politics! Britain is def atleast the 4th biggest economy and with general power, behind US, Japan and maybe Germany but i doubt it. and the fact is we are still one of the most powerful nations in military terms aswell


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lmao, u obviously know fuck all bout world politics! Britain is def atleast the 4th biggest economy and with general power, behind US, Japan and maybe Germany but i doubt it. and the fact is we are still one of the most powerful nations in military terms aswell


actually we are the most technologically advanced country in the art of war

how it's an art i fail to see lol


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Originally posted by Project T
actually we are the most technologically advanced country in the art of war


It's true ... how can you fight against a country full of james bonds, exploding pens, and laser wrist watches?

On a serious note, I don't know about the art of war, but I'll disagree and say that the US is more technologically advanced with regards to weapons.


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It's true ... how can you fight against a country full of james bonds, exploding pens, and laser wrist watches?


never mind him, it's jonny english who you should worry about


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I know Britain is currently the world's 4th largest economy, but I didn't make my list based only on economic situation only. Militarily wise, India is at the same level you are, since you both have nuclear weapons, so any large scale conventional warfare is ruled out. Aside from that, it has 20 times larger population, faster population growth, is capable of launching its own sattelites into orbit, has larger computer hardware industry, and a larger movie industry. It also has a significal regional influence while the British regional influence doesn't go much further than Ireland. Therefore I still say India is more powerful than Britain.


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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
I know Britain is currently the world's 4th largest economy, but I didn't make my list based only on economic situation only. Militarily wise, India is at the same level you are, since you both have nuclear weapons, so any large scale conventional warfare is ruled out. Aside from that, it has 20 times larger population, faster population growth, is capable of launching its own sattelites into orbit, has larger computer hardware industry, and a larger movie industry. It also has a significal regional influence while the British regional influence doesn't go much further than Ireland. Therefore I still say India is more powerful than Britain.


it makes relatively little difference as most of india is impoverised. their economy cannot fund their armed forces and their technology does not compare to us, especially our marine and navy forces. the technology india would use to launch nukes could be taken down very easily. india was at the end of the day only what it is now due to being part of the great british empire, which i still do not see the empire as ever being a good thing in so many ways.


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Britain has one of the best if not the best trained army in the world, The Special forces are brilliantly trained SAS SBS etc, plus the Marines and Para troopers your lucky if about 5% of enterants actually get in. Their intelligence MI5 and MI6 are top notch may be a small country but I wouldn't want to fuck with them.

Drug Tito India is a large country with a big population but its got fucking huge poverty problems like people still live in mud huts etc, and probably of half their weapons are probably world war 2 standard, and to join their army it wouldn't suprise if they only had to be able to run a mile, do 10 press ups, and 50 sit ups lol.


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All of that is true, but the sheer number of people outweights all those setbacks. If 800 million indians are living in mud houses, they still have 200 million who are not, compared to 50 million brits. And while their army is not as trained as the british, for each british soldier there are 20 indian ones. Besides, India is accelerating its technological development in the last few years. I still haven't seen Britain launching its own sattelites or producing computer hard drives. The british are stronger per capita, but they should be stronger 20 times in order to balance things out, and they are not.


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have you read sun tzu's art of war?

just curious, since numbers don't mean nothing when your army disorganized and poorly trained (in relativity of course). in modern warfare foot soldiers are nothing when compared to the raw fire power of integrated fighting systems of APCs, Tanks, and air power...i don't think india has that level of sophistication and organization miltarily.

lastly, if britain and india ever did get in a war, i doubt and highly doubt any nuclear missiles will be launched. however, if we are going to compare nuclear arsenal then india's arsenal is only rated as far as sub continental, while britain's is inter continental, thus giving britain first strike capabilities.


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Also the US will probably equip Britain with its Anti Ballistic Missile shield system


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I reckon we could pack a punch if we wanted to.

We might not be very big, but what we have got, is pretty damn good.

hmm, i wonder what sort of damage all the SAS and SBS squadrons could do to a country. Them alone could technically bring a country to its knees , well certainly cause big issues for the enemy.

Personally i don't think we will have the chance to find out, cos i don't think there are many countries that would be willing to start, specially with the likes of the US on our side.

But then, with all the terrorist attacks and stuff, that seems to be the new cheap war strategy.

So...who knows.........WHO DARES WINS !


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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
All of that is true, but the sheer number of people outweights all those setbacks. If 800 million indians are living in mud houses, they still have 200 million who are not, compared to 50 million brits. And while their army is not as trained as the british, for each british soldier there are 20 indian ones. Besides, India is accelerating its technological development in the last few years. I still haven't seen Britain launching its own sattelites or producing computer hard drives. The british are stronger per capita, but they should be stronger 20 times in order to balance things out, and they are not.


hmm 1 daisy cutter agianst a group of unorganised indians with stick, i know who i'd bet against


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