So this is what i figure so far

ASUS P4C800 deluxe motherboard
P4 2.4C chip
as the base

then
120 gig harddrive
1024 mem (not sure what kind between 2700 and 3200 or whatever the hell that means)

soundblaster Audigy (just regular)
videocard - 128MB but don't know which one to choose

that's all so far.

you would need pc3200 ram, the pc2700 runs at 333mhz fsb (166 doubled) the pc3200 runs at 400mhz fsb (200 doubled) the P3 2.4C runs at 800mhz fsb (200 times 4)

as for the video card any on the market will be fine for what you need, i suggest you stick with a well known brand name. atm ATI are the better graphics card to choose

as for yoru hard drive i would recomend a Western Digital or maxtor, these to brands produce the most reliable high performance drives, if there is a difference between 8mb cache and 2mb cache select the 8mb cache, this will help loads for your video editing stuff (at the moment ive got a maxtor 80mb 8mb cache drive)

that motherboard is a good choice, have you considered the intel made boards as well? another board maker known to be good for P4's are abit

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www.gamepc.com has some good workstations and they are very customizable but abit overprice depending on what u have/want.

for video card i would get a ati radeon9800 pro or 9700 pro. both are top of there class in gaming and some CAD and they dont cheat either like nvidia. I would avoid the geforce FX, these cards are a joke in performance and price, over price and under perform except for the fx 5900 pro which is overprice and standard performance.

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Originally posted by yujie__ [url] for video card i would get a ati radeon9800 pro or 9700 pro. both are top of there class in gaming and some CAD and they dont cheat either like nvidia. I would avoid the geforce FX, these cards are a joke in performance and price, over price and under perform except for the fx 5900 pro which is overprice and standard performance.

your pretty much right about the nvidia being poo but wudnt the 9700 and 9800 be a bit to much for just cad use and windows use? these are the best for gaming, but as said in first post the box aint for gaming, and something not has high spec could be brought for less savin £££ (or $$$)

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i got my 9700 non pro for 232. i flash it with the pro's bios and now i am , games and windows never look so prettier. the 9700np is getting rarer every day now. but some places have started to sell the 9800np for the same price as the 9700pro. its almost 1 year anniversary of the 9700pro.

http://www.ukgamer.com/article.php4?id=5&page=1 great to read if u are a newbie or curios or undecided on what to do/purchase

http://www.hanners.nildram.co.uk/sftu011_1.html lol

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess So this is what i figure so far ASUS P4C800 deluxe motherboard P4 2.4C chip as the base then 120 gig harddrive 1024 mem (not sure what kind between 2700 and 3200 or whatever the hell that means) soundblaster Audigy (just regular) videocard - 128MB but don't know which one to choose that's all so far.

First off get the P4P800 it offers the same performance as the other 875 mobos, secondly make sure you get 3200 ddr preferably cas 2, I recommend corsair low latency series, also due to the fact that these mobos are dual channel make sure you get 2 memory modules for the best performance. For a sound card you can't beat the M Audio Revolution 7.1 for price and quality, true 24 bit 96KHZ sampling or the Aureon 7.1 Space by terratec, it has more input options including optical in/out. I would run two hard drives, one for OS and the other for storage, get the Western Digital Raptor 10K 36GB for your OS and programs and a larger 7K drive for storage. Get a radeon 9700 pro for graphics. A good power supply and case are also needed. Just rememeber when putting together a computer the weakest link can slow down the sum of the parts, so don't think you can skimp on parts. Get a good recordable cdr/rw drive as well, the plextor is best although you can get a lite-on drive for the price/performance ratio...any other questions..just PM me.

Mizz1

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Originally posted by mizzuno I would run two hard drives, one for OS and the other for storage, get the Western Digital Raptor 10K 36GB for your OS and programs and a larger 7K drive for storage.

pretty sensible advice there, those WD raptors are amazing and certanily the best non scsi harddrives out there.

as to the graphics cards i personally think its a bit to over powerfull for cad, video editing, general windows use etc, and a cheeper card would do the same job at a lower price, but thats what i think i suppose


another factor to remember when buying parts seperatly is to buy 'retail' packaging and not 'oem' retail nearly always comes with a return to manufracturer warenrty while oem doesnt, hence why oem is often cheeper than retail products

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Originally posted by mizzuno First off get the P4P800 it offers the same performance as the other 875 mobos, secondly make sure you get 3200 ddr preferably cas 2, I recommend corsair low latency series, also due to the fact that these mobos are dual channel make sure you get 2 memory modules for the best performance. Mizz1

From what I read the P4P800 is not 875 its for 865PE. i dunno what difference it makes.

for the memory part you just mean to get two matching memory modules instead of one big one?

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess for the memory part you just mean to get two matching memory modules instead of one big one?

yeah, so if your going to get 1024 mb get 2 512mb modules

as to the motherboards ive never used a new p4 version one yet, your best bet is to check out some tech related sites just type the motherboard name + review in a google search and hopefully a load of links full of info will appear. also i do belive asus link all reviews on their products onthe motherboard specs page of their web site www.asus.com.tw

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i would get the p4p800(865) or abit IS-7(865) instead of p4c800(875) to save couple of dollars for the same performance, if u used the bios/optimization. heres a good big article on intel mobo's http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1831 . at the end they pick the abit is-7 for Editors Choice Gold Award for best overall Pentium 4 motherboard , p4p800 for best mid-range Pentium 4 motherboard

getting 2 different HD for OS and other stuff is safer. I got a 20 gig for OS/appz, 200 gigs 7200 rpm 8mb cache for mp3s, and a 120 gig 7200 rpm 8mb cache for other stuffs/appz/vidz/stuff

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Last edited by yujie__ on Jun-25-2003 at 02:30

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Originally posted by yujie__ i would get the p4p800(865) or abit IS-7(865) instead of p4c800(875) to save couple of dollars for the same performance, if u used the bios/optimization. heres a good big article on intel mobo's http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1831 . at the end they pick the abit is-7 for Editors Choice Gold Award for best overall Pentium 4 motherboard , p4p800 for best mid-range Pentium 4 motherboard getting 2 different HD for OS and other stuff is safer. I got a 20 gig for OS/appz, 200 gigs 7200 rpm 8mb cache for mp3s, and a 120 gig 7200 rpm 8mb cache for other stuffs/appz/vidz/stuff

u got one for free?

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