That's not the only difference... But that seems to be the biggest pro for the pioneer...(another advantage is the wave display)

But I chose the Denon, beacuse I didn't really need that function. Plus I found the looping, sampling, effects functions on the Denon much more useful. Plus the Denon is software upgradeable as opposed to pioneer. I can play MP3's with my denon also. With the denon, I can play a track, cue the same track and play it again, and sample from the same track all at the same time...

The most important thing was I prefered the feel of the denon. You should go to a store and try them both out...and then decide what feels better for you. They're both great machines and I'm sure you'll be happy with either.

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Originally posted by suhkorea ???????.... yah anyways... yah.. get it cause sometimes you can't find certain tracks.. you can just dl it off kazza

not true dood if you download tracks you cant play em in clubs and its also ripping off the artists. if you cant find tracks on cd buy the vinil and transfer it to cd, everyone got in a big flame war last time over this in the vinil vs cd forum becouse all the vinil people were saying that downloading music was gay (which it is) i dont agree with downloading music to play to other peopel but if you plan on practicing with it go for it

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keep vinyl alive thats what i say.

fair enuff use it for the odd cd now and again but vinyl is much better. for no particular reason i just like it better.

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Originally posted by pumavisor808 I prefer the denon because of the looping and multi track from one cd abilities, it is also cheaper than the 1000's or the new 1000mk2.

really? i thought they were more expensive. how much did you get yours for?

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Originally posted by pumavisor808 As for doing a whole set from one player...I was just saying you could do it... not that I would... I guess if you had your it all set up... say 3 or 4 cd's with your songs planned out, you could do...But I haven't actually done it yet... If I get a chance maybe I'll record a mix with just one player to see how it comes out...

i'd like to hear that. I'm sure it might be a useful feature maybe for a top 40 or wedding DJ that doesn't have to beatmatch and find cues, but for a trance DJ i doubt it would be possible to record a good set with it.

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Originally posted by pumavisor808 As for the pioneer cdj100... it bores me...If I was in the position to add to an existing turntable setup, I would go w/ one denon or one pioneer cdj1000 over 2 cdj100's anyday.

well, true the CDJ100 isn't much.. but why do you need more than stop and start, a few cues pitch, and a jog wheel? it even has a few FX thrown in. true, i'd rather have a 1000, but for the price of a CDJ1000 MKII, i could have 4 CDJ 100s and $100 left over for CDs!

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Pssl prices for players
Denon S5000 - $879.00 (I paid $1600 for both of mine from a local store)
Pioneer cdj1000 - $999, with $150.00 rebate = $849.00 (rebate ends july 31st) so I guess the pioneer is a little cheaper sorry...
Pioneer cdj 1000mkII - $1149.00


You can beat match the two tracks, plus the player stores something like 5000 cues... which I'm no where near to filling up yet. You have pitch control over both tracks, so it is fully possible to beatmatch the songs.
What I find it most useful for is mixing the same track with itself.. and "Sampling" from the same track... Why buy a sampler when I can have this do it for me... You could easily record an hour long set with it...(since you wouldn't need to change the cd)

Yes, I need more than start and stop. I like to do more than start a song and then beatmatch and mix to the next song and add a fancy effect. I like to recreate the song while I'm mixing. With two of these there's no end to my creativity..I can play the song, remove unwanted parts seamlessly, hot cue it to 3-4 different parts in the track, etc.... It's more than just a CD player.

I use and love vinyl too... Def. need to get my hands on vinyl during a set too, but to have this extra power is alot of fun...

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that was a great post^^^^^^^
a dj is a musician that makes music out of music.

The reason why Pioneer is in every club is because Pioneer supplies these clubs with the CDJ. Denon, on the other hand, makes clubs buy their equipment, they dont give them hand outs - you want the best, pay for it!

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

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Originally posted by DJ Mil0 not true dood if you download tracks you cant play em in clubs and its also ripping off the artists. if you cant find tracks on cd buy the vinil and transfer it to cd, everyone got in a big flame war last time over this in the vinil vs cd forum becouse all the vinil people were saying that downloading music was gay (which it is) i dont agree with downloading music to play to other peopel but if you plan on practicing with it go for it

i use cd's only, does that mean that i download??? hell no, people who download are just stupid in my opinion, dont you think if everyone in the world just downloads all the time, wont it kill the whole music industry? i thought school was important, why dont they teach u these things in school??? lol.

well im at school...and i have learned that i can download songs at up to 10mb/s and on the hubs..usually 50-500kb/s so yeah i download lol

and yeah i think the music industry IS going down...its not a "would-be" situation since the RIAA is like suing individuals now

i dont feel bad about downloading becuase everything i download is live sets and singles that i plan to buy on vinyl.

for cdjing however, mp3s have suckass quality. i have tried mixing an mp3 in with a laptop and a desktop with a good soundcard and the quality difference is to noticable.

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Originally posted by DjJade i have tried mixing an mp3 in with a laptop and a desktop with a good soundcard and the quality difference is to noticable.

Nice for you, but I know people who have mixed in a 128kbps mp3 (at a club) and nobody even noticed. (they mixed an mp3 because I asked them too, normally he spins vinyl or cd's)

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well as a bedroom dj i focus more on quality. i dont care if other people dont notice. im the dj and i notice.thats all taht matters to me, personally. thats all i was saying..i wasnt saying that someone would be wrong to download music and play mp3s at a club or whatever. i am aware, that everyone has their own opininos and preferences.

plus i dont think pvd fanatic is really talking about buying club equipment. he is talking about something thats going into his bedroom so if mp3 quality is good enough for him...then good for him. but like i said...as a bedroom dj i spin for pleasure and mp3s dont cut it for me.