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Originally posted by mr_smidge (tsk tsk, we should all be using OGG Vorbis by now anyway

*checking out ogg vorbis*

bah, it'll never take off.

Whatever happened to bitrates in standard multiples of 16?
Vorbis picks random bitrates from 115kbps to 120kbps?
That would anoy the hell outa me =P
128/160/or 192 4 me.

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Originally posted by doof doofer *checking out ogg vorbis* bah, it'll never take off.

It already has, just not enough.. I use it pretty much exclusively. It's just that educating the public is nigh on impossible, especially when they have mp3 out there already which is "good enough" for most people. It's just that open standards are a lot more important to me, and hence I use Vorbis. Not to mention the much better quality .

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Originally posted by Allied10 Vorbis picks random bitrates from 115kbps to 120kbps? That would anoy the hell outa me =P 128/160/or 192 4 me.

Trust me, it's not random. Think of it as very specific VBR. If a section of music only needs 115kbps, why bother encoding it at the next multiple of 16 when it doesn't need it? It is a comperession algorithm, after all...

P.S. Why is thread still in CD Reviews / Releases? Please move it to the relevant forum room, dear moderator.

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In case you're reffering to the tiny 0.02 sec-Gap - it's in the specs of mp3, so you can't avoid it (unless you decode the mp3s to wav-files and cut the silence manualy; but as soon as you encode them back to mp3, the silence will be there again).

Here's my workaround for DJ-Mixes, Liverecordings (where those gaps can get pretty annoying) etc. in Nero:

- activate "remove silence at end of file"

- change the default pause between songs from 2 to 0 seconds. (you have to keep the 2 seconds for the very first track though)

- most important: make a "cross fade with previous track" for each song. This cross fade should only last about 4 frames (which is about 0.05 seconds). You can do this by opening the context menu of a song with right clicking -> properties.

there you go, no gaps whatsoever.

mods: move this one to Frequently Asked Questions / Tutorials / How do I? forum please

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(tsk tsk, we should all be using OGG Vorbis by now anyway)

I know I'm getting a little bit of track, but what's the advantage of using OGG files? Haven't looked into it.

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Originally posted by Piero Cristiani I know I'm getting a little bit of track, but what's the advantage of using OGG files? Haven't looked into it.

You can find complete details at the official website, but to put it simply..

If you want/need a better quality format than mp3, then Ogg Vorbis would be your ideal choice in most cases. It's distinctively better quality than mp3 per bitrate (the normal comparison is that a 128kbps Ogg is of the same quality as a 256kbps mp3 file). But there are other important reasons why you'd choose it over other formats (WMA, etc.)..
Most importantly that it's an open format, not bogged down by patents. This means that anybody can write software that uses Ogg without having to worry about licensing issues (not the case with mp3 and others). And you can be certain that you'll always be able to play back your Ogg files any time in the future (imagine Microsoft decided to charge hugely extortionate royalties for any piece of software/hardware that could play back WMA-encoded songs.. now how the hell do you listen to your old WMA music collection without forking out a mint? - corporate lock-in - it's very bad)

Hope that helps,

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Great response, thank you very much.

No problem .

Mods: This thread really should be in the FAQ forum..

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