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Gluegun
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

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Originally posted by >everest<
well my current home setup in my bedroom is an old Technics ST - HD510 micro system wiv a Yamaha YST-SW105 subwoofer. Is it worth chucking the system and getting an amp, CD and speakers instead. My dads got some B&W DM603 S3 speakers and they sound quite good but perhaps not enuff low end for my tastes. i thought about getting the smaller B&W DM601 S3 bookshelf speakers and coupling them with my current sub. They are about 250 quid, and that would leave me about 150 for a cheap cd player and amp. Wot do u reckon?


Funny, i was originally only looking for some headphones....



For monitoring, the B&W's should be perfectly fine... you don't NEED mega-low end for production and monitoring use.. you need something with some accuracy, which the speakers your dad currently has will provide. Simply get an amp or reciever for them (does your dad have an old stereo reciever? Use that...) and hook up your sub, and you'll do great.

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>everest<
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Nottingham, England

Right im genna try and shop around and get the B&W DM602 S3 speakers and an amp.
Speakers = 300 notes
Any amp = _< 100 notes

im right in thinking i can plug my existing mini system into the amp as a cd player, tuner and cassette right?

cheers for everyones help!

>everest<


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Gluegun
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

quote:
Originally posted by >everest<
Right im genna try and shop around and get the B&W DM602 S3 speakers and an amp.
Speakers = 300 notes
Any amp = _< 100 notes

im right in thinking i can plug my existing mini system into the amp as a cd player, tuner and cassette right?

cheers for everyones help!

>everest<


As long as the system has an analog out (usually RCA). But dont expect hi-fi from a minisystem... the B&W's would probably be overkill for that source, given "traditional" audiophile measurements...

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DJ Chrono
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: toronto

hm, check this out

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/sh...sb=5&o=0&fpart=

(assuming you didnt make that post! lol)

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>everest<
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Nottingham, England

bah! so damn hard to make up my mind. i like the B&W's but ive never heard the Axioms. I need to hear the Axioms before i decide.













Perhaps ill go spend the money on drugs instead...


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Aphotic Phoenix
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Northern VA
College student with no space

Okay, so I've just started producing my own music, and I know quite well that my computer speakers, and the headphones off my MD player won't quite make the grade...but I'm kinda runnin' out of space for stuff. It's gotten to the point were I've had to start storing stuff like books and my photography equipment in my car. I'm living with a family member until I get out of school (which will be for a couple more years), and as a person that has about a gazillion hobbies already I don't wanna spend a ton of money on equipment. My boyfriend produces music on his computer too, and although his computer is connected to his stereo system (nice equipment - not so hot speakers), when I listen to his CD's in my car...some songs...well ick. I think part of his problem is his slightly outdated factory sound card and poor speakers...but I want to make sure that I don't have the same problems.

I use FL Studio PEd to make all of my music, so burning my songs to CD and listening to them in other stereos is a cinch. Still, I'd rather beable to detect and work on a problem right away. Anyway, review of the issue: not a lot of space, not a lot of money, temporary housing, and an insomniatic family member who would rather not have to listen to my music in the wee hours of the night. With all of this in mind would it still be better to have a pair of monitors, or could I get away with a nice pair of headphones? If the answer is still monitors, do you have any suggestions on some that are compact in size?

Thanx!

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DJ Chrono
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Location: toronto

I'm gonna recommend the M-Audio Studiophile BX5 monitors. I am recommending these based on their small size and the fact that they are active (meaning they have their own amplifier built in). I have not listened to them personally, so I can't comment on sound quality. Im sure you could probablly find better sounding ones for less money, but they would most likely be bigger and may require an amp (like my own Axiom m22ti's). These little guys go for 400.00 US, I dont know if that's in your price range or not. Check out more info HERE

Anyways, if you could make some space in your room for an amplifier, you'd have a slightly better selection. A decent bargain amp could cost around 100 US (look for used ones even, the old vintage ones still work nicely). then spend the rest of your budget on passive monitors (ones without built in amplifiers). Generally passive monitors are substancially cheaper than active ones. And as I have had experience with the Axiom line, I could recommend the smaller M2i ($255) or the M3ti ($275). More info HERE

There are really alot of options to choose from.

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BigStu
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
Getting started

I'm trying to get a basic beginner (software based) production set-up going, and it's not feasible for me to drop cash on monitor speakers (yet...). Can someone on this thread just tell me "It's okay Stu, when you're learning headphones are fine. If you want to spend around $150-200 canadian on headphones to monitor with, try these out ".

Thanks!

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Taz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

Well I know Robstar (Parker - Beams Of Gaia) uses headphones when he produces, specifically Sony...

The problem I find with headphones is the temptation (and often the necessity) to crank them up. Loud headphones is EXTREMELY bad for your ears. At least with speakers, you'll be likely to keep them at a level so as not to disturb the nearby folks, plus you'll "feel" the levels of things as they interact with the room.

I'd say just change your speakers. Make a CD of other people's songs that sound really different from each other, go to a shop, listen to the CD on different speakers and get something that lets you really hear the difference from song to song.

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DJ Chrono
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It's okay Stu, when you're learning headphones are fine. If you want to spend around $200 canadian on headphones to monitor with, try these out "Beyerdynamic DT770".

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Etherium
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Beantown

Ideally, you should use quality monitors to mix and master, buuuuuttttt, this is the real world, and in the real world we have roommates and neighbors, and let's face it, that kick every beat at 137bpm can get quite annoying, so.....

The problems with headphones are:

1. Many do not have a flat frequency response, only the really nice ones do!
2. They give an exaggerated stereo-width, making the song sound wider than it might actually be.

The advantages are:

1. The are no room reflections...no standing waves etc.
2. They don't disturb your neighbors.

So, if you want to keep the neighbors happy, produce on headphones, but get a QUALITY pair (over $150.00) that have a flat frequency response. I have a pair of Grados, they sound nice, but they color the sound, like Chrono said earlier. Just know that the width and enveloped sound you get when you have them on might not translate to the club's speakers. At the mastering stage, use a pair of monitors.

Good luck.


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Aphotic Phoenix
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Northern VA
Sony Headphones

I just bought a pair of Sony MDR-V600 headphones. I think they're pretty good, but what does the panel of experts think?

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