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Vizay
immiNspired



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Stockholm & in my mind

well I've learned something the last few days....it doesn't have that much with the spinning to do, more of a "treat your gear right"...

well anyways, I was moving close to my table and by accident hit the tonearm so it went out over my slipmat....BAD THING....VERY BAD THING...the nedle got stuck in the slipmat and broke...and of course geting a needle for a Numark groovetool seems impossible here in sweden....so ALWAYS remember to put the raise-lever fully up and ALWAYS lock up the tonearm when your'e not using the TT...believe me, you will regrett not doing any of theese two the day you do the same thing as me


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sykadelik
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Bristol

quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
well I've learned something the last few days....it doesn't have that much with the spinning to do, more of a "treat your gear right"...

well anyways, I was moving close to my table and by accident hit the tonearm so it went out over my slipmat....BAD THING....VERY BAD THING...the nedle got stuck in the slipmat and broke...and of course geting a needle for a Numark groovetool seems impossible here in sweden....so ALWAYS remember to put the raise-lever fully up and ALWAYS lock up the tonearm when your'e not using the TT...believe me, you will regrett not doing any of theese two the day you do the same thing as me


Schoolboy error Surely u have rigid deck covers that you put on ur decks when ur not using em

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Nabistai
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quote:
Originally posted by sykadelik
Surely u have rigid deck covers that you put on ur decks when ur not using em


There are several decks that don't have covers, the stanton st-90 for example


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bachatu
A Trance Of Thought



Registered: May 2001
Location: South Florida
Re: the "what i learned today" thread

quote:
Originally posted by DjJade
well i know theres alot of info for basic techniques and broad ideas but how about the more specific ones? i learn something or notice something new every day so perhaps we can start a thread about the more obscure things having to do with djing in general.. i guess ill start


today i was mixing and i realized that i really need to learn how to adjust pitch using the pitch slider instead of physicially touching any part of the record or platter that is spinnig. here is what i noticed: when i touch the platter the turntable fights it with force...thats the nature of magnetics... it induces an opposite force when you put a force on it. so while that makes a strong motor like techs better for starting etc...if you touch the platter it will fight back so the force isnt steady. that means when i slow it down very very slightly, the turntable will put it back to where it was. so eventaully i keep slowing it down, adjusting, slowing, adjusting until i think its matched up but actually, i overshot the right pitch point so then its even slower and my beats start drifting.

also... i realized that there is threashold point where the static friction of the slipmat stops holding the record to the platter. that means that when its going and im slowing it down, and i pass the threashold then the record will start slipping alot faster since kinetic friction is smaller than static friciton... so with the same force that im trying to apply to the record to slow it down at a costant rate, if i pass the threashold of static friction then the slipmat doesnt hold the platter anymore and then the record slows down a whole lot. so my beats are way off now and i have to bring it back to speed. that happeend to me a few times today too.



DjJade,
I understand your concern, but I believe you are looking into this a bit too far. I completely understand 99% of everything you mentioned above... Actually, I used to do the same thing when i first started. Eventually, i realized to stop getting so technical and just feel it and go with the flow as weird as that sounds.
I would suggest to continue practicing, though it may be frustrating not having that pitch riding technique mastered. Unfortunately, its not something that is learned quickly for most ppl. However, when its learned, its like instinct and you dont think about it, you just do it. It will be like one of those things where your like "i understand the matrix".... if you know what i mean.

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DjJade
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Registered: Oct 2002
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yeah i am starting to ride the pitch more...eventually ill be doing that all the time

i know i was getting technical and i know what you mean by the feeling but for me... i personally think of everything very technically and physically as well as ... feeling it beucase i think it enables me to understand it in a different way..so i was just sharing : )

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bachatu
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Registered: May 2001
Location: South Florida

quote:
Originally posted by DjJade
yeah i am starting to ride the pitch more...eventually ill be doing that all the time

i know i was getting technical and i know what you mean by the feeling but for me... i personally think of everything very technically and physically as well as ... feeling it beucase i think it enables me to understand it in a different way..so i was just sharing : )



Thats cool. Nothing wrong with the explanation, because I tend to get technical on how things work as well.. for some reason i like knowing and getting answers from little things or things that bother me. It always seems like little things like what you mentioned above are never really discussed for one reason or another, though they do exist.

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Vizay
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Stockholm & in my mind

quote:
Originally posted by Nabistai
There are several decks that don't have covers, the stanton st-90 for example


Numark TT1650 (yeah I know...don't laugh now ) doesn't have it either (don't think any of numarks TT's has it)


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Registered: Jun 2003
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the TT doesnt from what im aware. i herd that numark are bringing out a cover for it tho.


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DjJade
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Nashville, TN

i have a few g&d remixes...anyone notice that all the basslines are almost exactly the same? dont get me wrong i love my mindcircus and southern sun and intuition remixes but wheni really listened to them the basslines are exactly the same...

just a though anyone else notice this about other djs or producers?

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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

yeah, producers tend to use the same sounds in their tracks i notice. it's not neccesarily a bad thing, it makes them easy to mix anyway.

PVD uses the same kick drum in a lot of his tracks for example.

it's when the songs start to sound the same, in melody and structure (like dumonde for example, i know i am gonna get flamed for that one) that i get bored.


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Registered: Dec 2002
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try PPK - Reload and PPK - Resurrection . . . they might as well be the two parts of the same song


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bachatu
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Registered: May 2001
Location: South Florida

yeah, there are a list of producers that use same or similar elements in different tracks.
Most noticeable to me is Paul Van Dyk.. usual bassline, kick drum and high clap/clash or whatever.
Then you got like Oliver Lieb, Katana, and others

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