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Originally posted by tiesto14 SELL-OUT !! Just like Tiesto, Oakenfold, and Digweed.... whats next with these guys?...a collaboration with DJ Skribble And "Dinaire Force 1" said in this thread that the EDM scene is in trouble.....how?....the EDM scene is more mainstream then ever before...DJs are becoming corporate pop-stars...or shall i say puppets...they are no better then Britney Spears.. And yadda yadda yadda about them making the BIG money now with these endorsements....as what cost?...the cost of the scene?...i have said it before and i will say it again...THE MASSESS WILL EMBRACE THEN RUIN THE SCENE AFTER THE FAD IS OVER...they always do. So thank you Britney, oops i mean PVD...and thank you Christina...oops i mean Tiesto...and a HUGE thank you to Avril...dam i mean Oakie....you guys are REALLY doing a swell job...

Damn dude your more jaded than I am! Especially for someone who has Tiesto in his avatar!

I look at it like this. Is the artists commercial success causing a worsening of his music?

Oakenfold - yes
PvD - no
Diggers - HHHHHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLZZZZZZZZ fuckin NO!
Tiesto - maybe, yes and no.

While I have the same worries you have, one can only wonder how it will go. EDM is very unique in both the format in which its made and the format in which it is brought to the public. So while it is possible that EDM could really hit the crapper musically, there is also a chance it won't. History can be an indicator with other genre's, but since EDM is so different, who knows.

Yes I know that in Europe some Dj's are getting a bit absurd, but with the downturn in the scene (as Vic. said) those guys could get weeded out. I guess we can argue semantics all day, but I am not sure this commercial is a negative sign of things to come.

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Originally posted by NYGblue Damn dude your more jaded than I am! Especially for someone who has Tiesto in his avatar! I look at it like this. Is the artists commercial success causing a worsening of his music? Oakenfold - yes PvD - no Diggers - HHHHHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLZZZZZZZZ fuckin NO! Tiesto - maybe, yes and no. While I have the same worries you have, one can only wonder how it will go. EDM is very unique in both the format in which its made and the format in which it is brought to the public. So while it is possible that EDM could really hit the crapper musically, there is also a chance it won't. History can be an indicator with other genre's, but since EDM is so different, who knows. Yes I know that in Europe some Dj's are getting a bit absurd, but with the downturn in the scene (as Vic. said) those guys could get weeded out. I guess we can argue semantics all day, but I am not sure this commercial is a negative sign of things to come.

Not jaded...i know Tiesto is the number 1 sellout right now.

Diggers sold out in the 90's when he played New Years Eve for fucking MTV....sorry but the minute your on American MTV your a joke...plain and SIMPLE!!!!

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Not jaded...i know Tiesto is the number 1 sellout right now. Diggers sold out in the 90's when he played New Years Eve for fucking MTV....sorry but the minute your on American MTV your a joke...plain and SIMPLE!!!!

That is ridiculously narrow-minded...

Do you just ignore everything else he does?

Anyways, I won't flame, and you are jaded, but so am I so its cool.

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Originally posted by Dinaire Force 1 sorry man i disagree with you 1000% record labels are shutting down superclubs are shutting down edm magazines - going bust promoters are doing much less parties than before artists bookings dropped over 60% people who had secure employment in this industry are now losing their jobs. i lost my job too! i used to work at Logic Records until they went belly up. people arent clubbing as much anymore, alot of the die-hard fans are becoming jaded and are now over it. most people who bought music and supported are now downloading. this entire industry needs a surge of new energy and we need a new wave of followers to join whoever's left. were you born into this lifestyle? nope, neither was i. on a side note, i garantee it you would JUMP on the opportunity to do a Motorola commercial so please stop fronting my friend.

EDM Magazines?...who cares....only people who read those are the people who don't go out and dont know the scene....case in point look at the readers of DJ Mag...that list every year is a JOKE...wasnt Armin 2 years ago at #57?????///....LOL....

Right SMALL record labels are shutting down while the others are being picked up by corporate mongrals..only to rape and pillage the music....

Superclubs shutting down?...where...in NYC?...Twilo shut down more then 2 years ago...get over it....besides NASA parties where better then Twilo anyway...but your probally too young to remeber those.

Artists bookings dropped?....like who's?

The reason people are clubbing as much anymore is because the scene is too mainstream...anyone and everyone ventures into the clubs now...where in 1991-1997 the majority of these people would be denied at the doors of NYC clubs....

All these juice head, bridge and tunnel, candy, E popping, wannabe real NYC club kids because they saw Michael Alig on the E! channel are fucking up the scene for the die-hards...yet making it more profitable then it ever has been....

People who bought music are now downloading it?...that has been the case for many many years now my friend...WAKE UP it's the 21st century....

Was i "BORN" into this lifestyle?...not per se....but i have been listening to this music since 1984 and have NEVER left...so maybe there was a few years after i was born before i got into...but i can pretty much say i have been in it my whole life....i was in NASA and going to Robot parties in NYC when half these kids in clubs now where in diapers....we don't need the new followers liek you say...they are the ones fucking it up...are you that blind?...look at the QUALITY of trance/tech/prog/house etc etc to a few years back...are you kidding me?..you think it is better now?...it is NOT because it is too mainstream...not good for us but GREAT for the money hungry bitches.

Would i JUMP to do a motorolla commercial?....i don't know...it depends whats at stake...my pride? my dignity? at that cost then the answer would be absolutley NOT....money isnt everything my friend...as you get older you will realize that....so to answer your question honestly i would not of done it like PVD did and i would not of did shit with Coke like Tiesto did...i guess my morals and trueness to the scene means more to me then say 50 thousand or whatever they both got for the endorsements....but hey thats me.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 EDM Magazines?...who cares....only people who read those are the people who don't go out and dont know the scene....case in point look at the readers of DJ Mag...that list every year is a JOKE...wasnt Armin 2 years ago at #57?????///....LOL.... Right SMALL record labels are shutting down while the others are being picked up by corporate mongrals..only to rape and pillage the music.... Superclubs shutting down?...where...in NYC?...Twilo shut down more then 2 years ago...get over it....besides NASA parties where better then Twilo anyway...but your probally too young to remeber those. Artists bookings dropped?....like who's? The reason people are clubbing as much anymore is because the scene is too mainstream...anyone and everyone ventures into the clubs now...where in 1991-1997 the majority of these people would be denied at the doors of NYC clubs.... All these juice head, bridge and tunnel, candy, E popping, wannabe real NYC club kids because they saw Michael Alig on the E! channel are fucking up the scene for the die-hards...yet making it more profitable then it ever has been.... People who bought music are now downloading it?...that has been the case for many many years now my friend...WAKE UP it's the 21st century.... Was i "BORN" into this lifestyle?...not per se....but i have been listening to this music since 1984 and have NEVER left...so maybe there was a few years after i was born before i got into...but i can pretty much say i have been in it my whole life....i was in NASA and going to Robot parties in NYC when half these kids in clubs now where in diapers....we don't need the new followers liek you say...they are the ones fucking it up...are you that blind?...look at the QUALITY of trance/tech/prog/house etc etc to a few years back...are you kidding me?..you think it is better now?...it is NOT because it is too mainstream...not good for us but GREAT for the money hungry bitches. Would i JUMP to do a motorolla commercial?....i don't know...it depends whats at stake...my pride? my dignity? at that cost then the answer would be absolutley NOT....money isnt everything my friend...as you get older you will realize that....so to answer your question honestly i would not of done it like PVD did and i would not of did shit with Coke like Tiesto did...i guess my morals and trueness to the scene means more to me then say 50 thousand or whatever they both got for the endorsements....but hey thats me.

How old are you?

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hmmm...

/me wonders why Tiesto(stupidumbitch)14 was ever let back on TA?

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Tiesto14, I believe you would be an excellent candidate for the Junglists group. They are all whining jaded fart-knockers who think they know everything and diss ppl. like Vic. Dinaire...

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Fart-knocker!!! LOL
that's gold...I havent heard it in so long!

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Originally posted by beema hmmm... /me wonders why Tiesto(stupidumbitch)14 was ever let back on TA?

Right i am a bitch?.....you going to PVD?.....you got scared when i said i would be you at Glow....now you wanna start calling me names again?....so i ask...will you be at PVD in Central park?...if so by all means call me a bitch....i am NOT starting shit with you...YOU started with me with fine choice of words....

Anyone wanna see beema shit in his pants meet us at PVD...hey beema bring extra beer money for me you....you fucking tool.

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Originally posted by NYGblue Tiesto14, I believe you would be an excellent candidate for the Junglists group. They are all whining jaded fart-knockers who think they know everything and diss ppl. like Vic. Dinaire...

LOL....i don't diss people who are in the scene for the love of the music...i diss people who are in the scene and in the clubs because it is the cool thing to do....

And i am 28

umm, I didnt get scared when you said you would come to Glow to kick my ass cause I made you look like the fucking idiot you are on TA (which btw, is the gayest thing ever to want to get in a fight for)
so shut your damn mouth you dumb cock, cuz you never even showed up at Glow.
If you so much as look at me when I am at PVD trying to have a good time, I will shove my keys through your fucking neck.
So piss the fuck off you stupid internet flamer douchebag, get a fucking life, fucking pathetic for a 28 year old
your mom must be real proud

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