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DigiNut
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^jinxed84: I don't think you get it... although I sincerely hope it never comes to pass, we are talking about a collaboration between the government, hardware companies, and software companies. We're talking about a CPU that only lets you install specific hardware and a specific OS, and the OS gives you access to your computer that's basically like the access you get from a library terminal. And if you try to mess around with the hardware, you'd be breaking the law. It's not just encryption - that can be broken - it's an entire system of components built from the ground up to allow remote control and security by manufacturers.

You can mess around with software at this point, but when the security is hardwired into your system, it's another story entirely... to understand what they're planning, you have to start thinking of your PC as a non-programmable device, like a cell phone for example. You can load up new ring tones and new games but you don't have any control over the system itself. Now add onto that the ability of your service provider to scan your phone before you get to the main menu and delete any games they don't like or just block your service if they want. It's not even really *your* PC anymore.

Emulators on Linux are already unreliable and difficult to maintain... I would have to assume that it would be virtually impossible to get it to work on "TC" (assuming you could install Linux at all), since those "TC" apps would require special licensing architecture and such... ever tried to use a dongle-based program like Logic Audio on Linux? Unless you crack it, it's a nightmare...


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MrSquirrel
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Originally posted by jinxed84
unless they start encrypting your speakers, and monitors i dont think they can do much. the signal has to come out clean and decoded somewhere right? just copy it after that point.


There are types of copy protection which get around your solution. "Macrovision" which is used on home videos which adds in signals which are not shown on the screen but which cause the image to be distorted when recorded on another tape. I am sure there are several audio copy protection scemes along those lines as well.

this does not mean you couldn't play a song back through a pair of speakers and have a microphone pick up each speaker and then record it back into stereo.....but that would lead in 99.9% of cases to major loss of quality. that loss of quality, along with the labor/time intensive manner of the process is why they will most likely not do anything to stop that type of recording. No return on investment so to speak.

Sure there are always ways around a copy protection scheme....but you have to ask yourself is it even worth the extra effort?

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel
The serial number broadcasting is, by default, set to off and must be turned on by the computer user if they choose to do so. It is in some ways a useful feature because it gives you computer a unique identifier which a site, such as a banking site, could use to make sure the person logging in as you is at least more likely to be you. But it can also be used to track your web srfing habits, which is why everyone freaked out and Intel backed off on having the feature on by default.

MrS


Okay... that was about what I meant to say, but couldn't this do the same thing as that 'trusted computing' thing? I mean, a hardware 'stamp' sounds more resistent to fraude to me...


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