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extalin
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL U.S.A.

christofa: glad you like the vocals

Phorte: yeah, the timestretching idea was something that just popped in my head while i was working on the remix and i didnt even know if it was going to work.. i think it turned out o.k., but i know its not perfect.. hehe i wish i could have gotten her to come record the vocals over again LoL.. but we all know that is not a likely thing to happen (maybe one day... ha).

tor8024: glad you like it .. yeah i wish i would have submitted on time.. i would have been in the competition and that downloading mess would have never happened because my account would have been deleted already. but anyway.. about the bass... i had a really tough time with it sounding right on certain systems.. it used to be much worse so much that when it changed key that it would totally disapear on my roomates computer speaker system (on my system it sounds fine, but i always listen to my work on lots of other systems to detect problems). so i played around with it a whole lot and its somewhat better now, but like you said its just a really deep bassline and unless you have speakers that can go down that low then it will lose energy like you said. i know the bass will sound very good in a club though, because the energy is there its just in the very low frequencies.

wim: 'more interesting' is good


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Haak
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway

have a feeling you would have placed high in the competition heh
great work!
love what you did to the vocals, atleast after the break (i don't like them in the original at all).

the bassline sounds good on my system (sub!) i'm not a fan of the simple offbeat basslines though.
some crazy synths at around 5 mins, did you use the scream4? really like the gated synths too

keep it up


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rqpeyruxvg
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Earth

very wierd mix

full of bouncy energy tho, i like. better than mine anyways ...

good job!

tezz

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dj_alucard
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Winnerpeg

oops was listening to the worng song

will review it now

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dj_alucard
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Winnerpeg

ok i like it

some work would have to be taken with teh vocals though

otehr than that you song is unique and has a great sound

the vox at some points dont really fit with teh rest of teh song

other than that

bang up job

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extalin
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL U.S.A.

thanks for the replies!

i get what you guys are saying about the vocals, i wasnt really sure what i was doing heh. this is the first time ive worked with vocals in a song (well on divergence i had that vocals sounding track but it wasnt vocals with words) so i just tried to be creative with it.. next time i think i will try to make it flow better.

haak: hehe yeah i love gated stuff... that first 'gated synth' you hear is actually a string patch for the nn19 that i have and then gate it on 1/16 notes with some on and some off and then apply a delay and run it all through the bad ass scream 4 (heh you were right).. the scream 4 played a big big role in a lot of the instruments.. (i am a guitar player so i love distortion)..

thanks again for listening everyone


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Fatboy
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: London, UK

I'm very impressed with this remix. Most of the time the stuff you did with the vocals was very good and very creative. At times I was put off a little, but that might also be because I've just remixed it myself and have become used to the vocals in their original form Can't fault anything production wise. I didn't think the bass came too low. I think you should've stayed in the comp. Doesn't really matter if you downloaded a song as it was a misunderstanding, and it doesn't affect the judging in any way. I don't think the time you entered matters as well. Again, great stuff


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Phorte
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Adelaide, AU

quote:
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and have become used to the vocals in their original form Can't fault anything production wise.


yeah i think this is why a lot of ppl are a little unsettled by the vocals.. because they're sectioned and phrased so differently from the original, and most of us are so used to the original (unfortunately) i guess it'll take a few listens for it to sit well hehe

well done either way though.. production is crisp!


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Fractal
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Charleroi

More I listen to this song, more I realise that it's an kick ass remix !!!
Hey extaline, now I'm impatient to hear your new releases !
Really great remix !!!!!!!!


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extalin
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL U.S.A.

thanks man.. im really glad people are liking it more after several listenings. i have some new original stuff i am working on at the moment, and i should have something done within the next few weeks..


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Damie Mckeown
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: England, Liverpool

Your song has made me feel like quiting producing ITs Very good, what Eq did you use? and VSTS?

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extalin
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL U.S.A.

dont quit producing it took me a long time to be able to get my music to sound anything like i wanted it to and im still learning so much every time i work on something... the only way you will get better is to just keep trying.

for the song i used all the instruments and effects in reason 2.5 except for the nn-xt and the dr. rex. thats where most of the sounds are from and i did a lot of eq work in reason. then, in cubase i added a few more sounds like during the breakdown when the piano comes in.. that piano sound is a VST called 'mda piano' i think it is free (it sounds pretty good after you put some fx on it like reverb).. then i also used the Albino, Pro 53, and +z3ta (for the wicked bass sound during the breakbeat section is a combination of a subtractor synth in reason with scream 4 distortion, then a +z3ta preset like the 'huge' one but not that one exactly (it would do), then a similar sounding albino synth (maybe detune trance lead), and also a pro-53 (i think megadance)). anyway, you get the idea about all the layers being used to make that 'full' sound.

as for eq, i do most of it when im designing the sound i want so that it will already be right when i get done with all the instruments.. its kind of bad because i will spend a long time just messing with a sound instead of coming up with the music.. but i guess it works ok.. but then after im done with the whole song, i export all the different instrument tracks to their own wave file (24 bit 48khz) and i load all the wave tracks into cubase in a new project and then i add more stuff by messing with the audio files by cutting and pasting things and timestretching stuff and adding more fx like reverb or EQ if i think its necessary (cubase sx has a nice eq imo). so, finally i get everything tweaked how i want it and export that project to one mixed down stereo wave file at 24 bit 44.1khz (i have been working in 24 bit 48khz up until this point) and then i load that file into T-Racks and apply a highpass filter at about 30 - 35 hz... some 2:1 compression, and a little limiting. then i export that dithered to 16 bit and you end up with a nice 16 bit 44.1khz wave file ready to burn on to a cd or encode into mp3.

hope that give u some ideas damie.. and thanks for listening.

-rob


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