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Seany_G
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Canada!

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
Very true dj flesch. I told my parents why I come home late, they understand it, they just think it's "abnormal" for one of "our nationality" to come home late like that. Bahahah. Ah wellz, they know why I do it, as I've explained it, so hopefully it will sink in.


Yeah moonshine,

I was in your situation in the spring and let me tell you that things are working out well now. Endless is right, there is always a way to get it to sink into your parents. Due to your religion or ethnic background it may be harder for your than others but despite how crazy your father must seem, he has some heart in him.

Something that I would do is (while saving up to be able to move out later) I would buy some doctor perscription earplugs like the guys said above. They tone the sound down without distorting it. I'd get a pair of these and get my doctor to print off and sign some stats or write a note saying that with these earplugs it is safe to play with the headphones on for X amount of time at X decibles. If you give your dad the cold hard facts and be mature about doing it you can, in most cases, persuade anyone that is acting in a stubborn way.

So tahts what i would do...approach you parents in a mature, respectable way and make some suggestions and use the approach that Dj fflesch gave u and in the meantime start saving up your money so you can PUMP THAT SH*T in your own place!

Hope I've helped and if you need someone to talk with or get opinions from you know where to finD me!

PEace,

~Seany G


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Ghostface
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne

well hopefully you took some of the mature advice as opposed to either kicking your father in the nuts or telling him to go fuck himself.

You should tell your parents that the best thing they can do for you is to let you start making your own decisions so you can learn by making your own mistakes.

best of luck


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RobertRollie
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Melbourne, AU

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
find a good job, that'll help you alot too.

and tell your father to leave you the fuck alone. Tell him you're an adult of 20 years old and that you can perfectly take care of yourself.


If he was capable of taking care of himself he wouldnt need to live with his parents :P


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Old Post Sep-04-2003 10:55  Australia
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djshan
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Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Realm
well if you really want to stay in your house that bad what i would do id hook up your Turntables to your computer though the line in input and just have your speakers low so that you wont have to worry about low sound on the mix..that is if you have 2 outputs on your mixer

but thats me


yeh well its boring listening to music that way, u cant hear any bass or anything

Old Post Sep-04-2003 12:30  Canada
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djshan
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quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
Honestly, telling people to fuck themselves is a pretty childish way to handle the situtation. You have to handle the situation like an adult if you want your parents to treat you like an adult. I would ask them to sit down and listen to what you have to say.

I personally would start by stating that you are 20 years old and that the law sees you as an adult at age 18. It is true that you are living under their roof and that as your parents they gave you a LOT. One point that I would defintely bring up is how much you appreciate all of what they have done for you. If you want things your way, you have to be able to prove that you can be treated like an adult--ie making your own decisions etc. Try asking them what you can do to get that treatment from them.

If it's one of those, "you'll live by my rules under my roof" situtations, then NICELY explain to them that their rules are suffocating you and are not allowing you to become an adult. It would be the best parenting they can give you to let you become one slowly under thier roof by starting to let you make your own decisions whether they approve or not--and of course don't expect to get everything your way. Explain how important Djing is to you. If they won't let you play through speakers, or headphones, then get earplugs that let you play with the headphones at lower volumes. There are plenty of musician's earplugs--search the web.

Last of all, I would try to explain to them that if they continue to sufficate you as they are, your main objective will turn into getting out from their iron rule and being off on your own--even if you can't afford it. And once you do this, do you really think that you'll have a close loving relationship with them? Or do you think that you'll be angry, bitter and start out a very hard life regardless of how well they brought you up. Kids rebel and parents need slowly let their kids learn through their own experiences, though kids also need to keep in mind how much they really received from their parents and how to go about asking for the things that they want respectfully, as well as only asking for resonable things, things that the kids can be responsible with and things that kids have really given some thought and research to as well.

They can't deny you your life. If worse comes to worse, start researching how you can afford to live on your own. Take school loans that allow for year-round campus living. Sure you will end up with a bit of debt, but living on your own will teach you a lot of valuable lessons too, as long as you think about what you do before you do it! (Ie don't get a credit card and max it out on vinyl etc. Find a part-time or full-time job (if you don't have one already), depending on what you situation allows so that you can start to save for you own place or for school costs etc.

Let me know how it goes or if you want to talk more


i like what you said there. i have a full time job at the moment. all that money is going towards my new house, mortgages and stuff, i spend it on cd's once or 2wice a month, and then im bankrupt at the end of the month. i would live on my own if i could afford it. i have a frend at work thats 25 and she lived on her own since she was 19, her parents kicked her out because she started dating this guy. now she lives with her bfrend. but neways i think i should just wait until i get my new house, that way ill have my own bedroom, a lock, and neighbours wont complain. i dont give a shit wat my dad says, but i cant do anything about the neighbours, theres no one thats gonna take my side. but anywayz ill wait until april, if things stay like this, then maybe ill start planning about finding a place to stay. im going to flight collge in april/may so i will have a place to live on my own for that whole school year. but thanks for the advice, appreciate it.

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djshan
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Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Seany_G
Yeah moonshine,

I was in your situation in the spring and let me tell you that things are working out well now. Endless is right, there is always a way to get it to sink into your parents. Due to your religion or ethnic background it may be harder for your than others but despite how crazy your father must seem, he has some heart in him.

Something that I would do is (while saving up to be able to move out later) I would buy some doctor perscription earplugs like the guys said above. They tone the sound down without distorting it. I'd get a pair of these and get my doctor to print off and sign some stats or write a note saying that with these earplugs it is safe to play with the headphones on for X amount of time at X decibles. If you give your dad the cold hard facts and be mature about doing it you can, in most cases, persuade anyone that is acting in a stubborn way.

So tahts what i would do...approach you parents in a mature, respectable way and make some suggestions and use the approach that Dj fflesch gave u and in the meantime start saving up your money so you can PUMP THAT SH*T in your own place!

Hope I've helped and if you need someone to talk with or get opinions from you know where to finD me!

PEace,

~Seany G


thanks man, its about time i came to the right place where i dont need any more gino friends, lol. now i can be a part of real trance people, just loving it right now. i always approached my parents in a mature way, they know why i drink, and they underatnd im smart and stuff, because that what most people tell them everyday, im seriuos. theres just a few problems i have with them that need to be solved, and with everyones help here it can be solved which is awesome. and i cant wait to pump that shit because i think the last time i blasted my tunes was like 7 months ago when i was home alone. but the cops came after to give a warning, ill explain that story later, but thanks alot for the help, peace.

Old Post Sep-04-2003 12:48  Canada
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djshan
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Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by RobertRollie
If he was capable of taking care of himself he wouldnt need to live with his parents :P


well i dont understand what u mean im not capable, do u mean like i cant live on my own becuase i cant afford it, or is it something else? just wondering...

Old Post Sep-04-2003 12:50  Canada
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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

I wouldn't pay any attention to that post. Some people are just so damn perfect they feel they can put others down.

My advice (take it or leave it) is that you should try and get out. Your dad sounds almost as if he is not only culturally/religously different but a bully as well (at least when it comes to music).
I think there are a couple of conflicts here. First of all the traditional father vs son and then the conflict of your father vs the world (I got the impression that you guys are from a different different culture, if this is wrong forgive me).



The best thing for you is to find a way of moving on.
If buying a place is too expensive for you then consider renting or sharing with a friend. I would however advise you not to buy a place with a friend. Even the best friendships can go sour as a result of a financial dispute. Sometimes people are not always who they seem to be.
Just make sure you don't make your life worse as a result of trying to get away from your family.

A word of warning with the neighbours bit though. Always try to look after them because they can make your Djing life very difficult. I know that in England there are actually some powerful laws that can hit you hard. I imagine it's similar in most countries.
In England it can go as far as you having all your equipment taken away and the bank sells your house (If you own it). Although in most cases the courts will let you sell it, the law here actually allows the bank to sell it without you getting any money for it. You would actually have to be really bad for that to happen but it's always worth knowing the score.

You don't need to play loud to get good DJ skills but it does feel good.

Best of luck with whatever decide to do.

Cheers
Nem


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