First of all>Thank you guys.
The tt's I got are the Numarks 16.. Direct with a shi*** mixer+headphones then I upgraded the mixer (behringer300) and the headphones (Sony 700).
anyway I found out that some of the stuff on the book are just BS but still a great book !
Once again Thank

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might want to grab a few tips out of that book
but dont dig your head in too deeply into a book.

"create yourself and not let others create you!"

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Last edited by futurevision on Sep-05-2003 at 03:10

yeah i started w/ a dj package in a box, the stanton platinum pack II. now , i really wish that i held out to buy better stuff. but i was impatient...

i ugraded the headphones very very soon. next , 7 months later, the needles/headshell/cartridge (i bought ortofon concordes). next, the tts themselves! after spinning 2 nights in a row for a total of 4 hours on techs during gigs, i realized, holy crap, i can totally notice the difference b/t these tables and my stanton str8-80s.

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my 2cents (again) <---- if you afford to go out and buy a set of tech 12s, good carts, a dope mixer, nice headphones, and start collecting vinyl then by all means go right ahead. you'll be better off, however not everybody has that much cash just lying around. alot of those dj in a box deals are junk but some of them arent too shabby. atleast they get you playing music and mixing. the headphones that come in most (all) of them suck but odds are your using them in your bedroom and thats one of the cheapest upgrades you can make. they (dj in box) also give you an opportunity to see if you really like doing it before you shell out mad loot. i know a few people that have some nice pieces of equiptment collecting dust. all i'm trying to say is if thats what you can afford go for it but try to get the best set up that you can. you've gotta start somewhere

Hey Ikki,

Don't give yourself a hard time over this. Back when I started no one wanted to be a DJ and there was no such thing as DJ packs.. (And before anyone says it, no I'm not in my 40s).

I had one Sony TT... not sure which model and the deck with the torque from hell. It was a cheap no name brand that my dad got me from a boots department store. It had torque like none I have ever seen, it would make a 1210 look pathetic. If you caught your sleeve on it, it would have ripped your arm off. The crazy thing was that this was a belt drive. Although the belt was more like someone had taken the rubber from a tractor tire and molded it.
My decks had no pitch but the deck from hell did have the option of playing 78s.
My mixer didn't have a cross fader (not a problem as I still don't use the fader today) and only had one phono input. The way I got around this was thanks to the deck from hell which had it's own built in amp and line out option.
The point I am trying to make with this is that whatever gear I had, I was DJing.

The good thing about starter packs is that you get up and running at a lower cost than if you buy top gear. And who knows... you might not like it. The down side with that is that Technics have a better re-sell value than Numarks if you decide to move on.

The DJ community today is a strange beast that almost has myths of it's own. There is such a thing as general knowledge and then there is personal taste. People will always want to have opinions (Which is good) but just because it's written in a book it may not always be so. It might have been true when the book was written but may not be now... and so on.
For an example, you only have to look at the thread about headphones. some guy was telling everyone which headphones to buy. Granted, he knows masses about headphones but f*ck all about DJing.

I think a lot of DJs often forget what it was like to take the first steps into the world of DJing. There are many things you can learn on your decks.

Someone made the comment "There is no right way to DJ but there are many wrong ways". I have to agree with that, although there is a set structure to music there are so many ways to play around with it. But who is to say that you couldn't go against the structure and create something that still sounds awesome? Take Jazz for example, sometimes the musician will play a note or chord that is both out of tune and out of time to get your attention. This is called a blue note.
Who is to say that you couldn't discover the Trance Equivalent?

When the time comes, upgrade and enjoy the experience of playing on better equipment. Until then, enjoy what you are learning now.


Peace
Nem

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ONCE again *THANK YOU* NEMESIS and thank you to all the other that answered my question !
Nemesis would you mind if I pm you with some questions? Let me know

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Sure

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I have found that starting off with "inferior" equipment can help make a DJ so much better when they get to use better equipment. If you are able to play on poorer decks and mixer then you can adapt to better set-ups that you would find in a club. And if a club has a "crap" set up - you are better equipped than somebody who has used only the best equipment.

I started off on Gemini PT2100's, good decks but with a major flaw in the way the plate is mounted on the decks. It doesn't feel smooth if you touch the plate, therefore it is hard to make accurate corrections touching the record, therefore I learned pitch only corrections. I gained because of my "inferior" equipment!