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moncster
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Originally posted by hadi ******
i only use dc++, i dont think that is a targeted program anyways? is it?

beside, anything that is shared, is not one of hte labels teh riaa is "protecting". i dont even know hwo to check my isp email anyways



Actually, stuff from many of the big producers are released by RIAA members. Just as examples, Tiesto, Hybrid, and others are on labels with RIAA support.

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but, how do they have access to the hub, if you are using a private one? and can you get in trouble for sharing stuff that the riaa doesnt protect, ex: something from blackhole record label or bonzai?


Well I'm sure they could hack their way in. But most hubs have disclaimers stating that by entering you are agreeing upon the internet privacy act signed in 1995 by Bill Clinton, or something along that line. I don't know how protected you are in private hubs, but if you look at it like territory they would be invading private property.

I think privately owned servers/hubs are giving them too much legal work right now so they are just targeting P2P public filesharing programs. I don't really see them changing from the public filesharing to private anytime soon, since most of the damage dealt to the music industry is done on those public filesharing programs. The majority of private servers are mainly underground music material plus movies, games and programs.


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i find it pretty strange that no one so far has made some 1024bit encrypted mega duper secure file sharing service with no way to trace users...

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i find it pretty strange that no one so far has made some 1024bit encrypted mega duper secure file sharing service with no way to trace users...





That's basically the idea behind freenet...

http://freenet.sourceforge.net/

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St_Andrew
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That's basically the idea behind freenet...

http://freenet.sourceforge.net/


thought about that too. but freenet doesn't support files bigger then "not so big"... but it shouldn't be that hard to take some basics of freenet and do a freetradenet or something =)

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thought about that too. but freenet doesn't support files bigger then "not so big"... but it shouldn't be that hard to take some basics of freenet and do a freetradenet or something =)


Can anyone say


Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.rar
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r01
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r02
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r03
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Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r11
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r12
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r13
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.nfo

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Originally posted by moncster
Can anyone say


Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.rar
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r01
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r02
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r03
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r04
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r05
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r06
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r07
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r08
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r09
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r10
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r11
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r12
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r13
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.nfo



GG RIAA

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quote:
Originally posted by moncster
Can anyone say


Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.rar
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r01
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r02
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r03
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r04
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r05
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r06
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r07
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r08
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r09
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r10
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r11
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r12
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.r13
Sarah_McLachlan_-_Fear_(Hybrid's_Super_Collider mix).mp3.nfo


LOL!

i'm installing right now, i think this is the beginning of something big

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St_Andrew
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dug a bit deeper in this freenet thing, there is a file sharing client for freenet, sound interesting as hell to me

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NewsGroups is still the thing to do

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A lot of ppl express arrogant (stupid) words to the effect of screw RIAA they can't touch me. The truth is RIAA has been gaining strength, stepping up their attack with each victory and expanding their reach. First they shut down Napster, then Audio Galaxy, now p2ps (Kazaa).

I wouldnt find any comfort in the fact they havent targeted private hubs "yet". As long as ppl are sharing music on a large scale they will be there, no matter how ur doing it. Its pretty obvious that if they drive ppl from public p2p into private hubs, guess where RIAA is going to next.

For those who say they'll just stop sharing, then who are you going download music from when everone else comes to the same conclusion? It doesnt matter if ur name isnt on a ISP contract. My whole point is the threat is real and its going to effect you in some way if not now then soon.

BTW, saw an interesting article posted on another board http://www.warp2search.net/modules....cle&sid=1 4125

quote:

In the Mp3, the ID3v1 and ID3v2 Tags have identifying Hash marks that can be used to identify where one got the Mp3 from. . . When the RIAA sued one woman, she claimed that her Mp3's were all her own, but the RIAA used the Mp3 Hash marks to prove she lied. . . In fact the Hash marks showed that some of her Mp3's were originally downloaded via the Napster (now gone) file sharing software.

So use the free CDex software to convert all your Mp3's to Wav files that have no Tags at all. . . (Warning - These Wav files are 10-times bigger than the Mp3's, so only do 10-50 at a time). . . To avoid CDex or other software from carrying over the Hash marks, use another software to convert back to Mp3. . . If you had 128- bitrate Mp3's to start with, then use 160-bitrate to go from the Wav file back to the "Hash cleaned" Mp3 file to minimize sound- quality loss.


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Boomer187
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quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
A lot of ppl express arrogant (stupid) words to the effect of screw RIAA they can't touch me. The truth is RIAA has been gaining strength, stepping up their attack with each victory and expanding their reach. First they shut down Napster, then Audio Galaxy, now p2ps (Kazaa).

I wouldnt find any comfort in the fact they havent targeted private hubs "yet". As long as ppl are sharing music on a large scale they will be there, no matter how ur doing it. Its pretty obvious that if they drive ppl from public p2p into private hubs, guess where RIAA is going to next.

For those who say they'll just stop sharing, then who are you going download music from when everone else comes to the same conclusion? It doesnt matter if ur name isnt on a ISP contract. My whole point is the threat is real and its going to effect you in some way if not now then soon.

BTW, saw an interesting article posted on another board http://www.warp2search.net/modules....cle&sid=1 4125



Interesting point but the fact is that the RIAA is only effecting an extremely small percentage of p2p users. They are actually sueing 261, sent out 1000 er so subpeonas, but think of how many users there actually are. Millions, so the fact that they have only set an example of a few is only gonna deter the people who are already scared. Once they find a way to penalize thousands then it will hit home and p2p will be no more.

This doesn't hurt us all since I know a lot of people who only share their stuff through private boards and ftp sites. Those are virtually impossible to break down since they inforce a strict vouching system. I would assume the same is true for DC++ except the ones I have seen are more leinent on new members.

So the bottom line is that it is the people on the bottom end of the chain being effected, not the rippers and their friends. So you better start networking now and find some of the right friends cause if the RIAA is allowed to keep this up, those that only depend on p2p for stuff will be screwed.

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