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Originally posted by AZCA all of this info is useless because there are no GOOD OFFICIAL drivers for FX 5900 yet, in a few months drivers will be improved greatly, improving performance, so far on all raw test 5900 FX beats 9800 PRO, so this is just a matter of newer drivers from nVidia optimized for newer games.

Dude, the Ati Radeon 9700 pro has beaten the 5900 ultra in benchmarks. and in a few months its too late, HL2 is coming out soon Buy then ATI will have already released better drivers that will outperform NVIDIA.

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Originally posted by AZCA now ATI only has 1 good CHIPSET, which is RADEON 9700 (and other revisions of it 9700 PRO, 9800 (9700 optimized for internal memory saving), all other video cards that they make stink. Now FX just came out, their drivers are horrible and they will be rewritten totally to be optimized for games, ATI's RADEON 9700 series have been out for almost 2 years, their 1st drivers catalyst 2.0 were shit, it took them almost 2 years to get to version 3.7 , good drivers. so this is a matter of drivers, not hardware.

Actually its both hardware and software.

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Originally posted by TheDemon Actually its both hardware and software.

thats what i said. they cheated with bad hardware and still cant beat the 9x00 on lots of benchmarks. denial is not a river in egypt. he must be a nvidiot or have something against ati.

ya know am guessing azca bought a 5900 for a lot of money, and now we give this information, and he won't believe it rofl. NVIDIOT NVIDIOT NVDIOT!!!!

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Originally posted by DJ Lac ya know am guessing azca bought a 5900 for a lot of money, and now we give this information, and he won't believe it rofl. NVIDIOT NVIDIOT NVDIOT!!!!

lamer.

u should change u name to LAMER Lac

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Originally posted by AZCA lamer. u should change u name to LAMER Lac

LoL getting aggressive are we. Guess I did push your buttons. Its people like you that has something up their asses all the time and take everything seriously. While we provide facts to tell people what is really good. I bet you play cs and get pissed when somebody kills you like 10 times in a row and you call them a cheater... Or maybe someone who is insecure that they will lose at something so they will deny everything when you know its really true. Hrmm.. so tell me.. if I called you a NOOB are you going to get pissed off even more? Is that why you called me a LAMER cuz I called you an "nvidiot". Your quite a piece of work.. We start giving factual information from reliable sources and you jump to conclusion that it sucks or you shouldn't buy it. For all I care I haven't seen proof from you, on reasons why it sucks. You always were a blabber mouth that has not provided actual information, but your swindiling aggression. If you don't want to get flamed (and I mean from other people) I suggest you provide us reliable facts why the 9500/pro is way better then the 9600 or why the 5900 is better then the 9700/9800.. If you can give us that then we won't have to be standing on this pile of shit.

Oh by the way.. Lamer was my name in CS So guess you did a follow up research.

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Originally posted by DJ Lac LoL getting aggressive are we. Guess I did push your buttons. Its people like you that has something up their asses all the time and take everything seriously. While we provide facts to tell people what is really good. I bet you play cs and get pissed when somebody kills you like 10 times in a row and you call them a cheater... Or maybe someone who is insecure that they will lose at something so they will deny everything when you know its really true. Hrmm.. so tell me.. if I called you a NOOB are you going to get pissed off even more? Is that why you called me a LAMER cuz I called you an "nvidiot". Your quite a piece of work.. We start giving factual information from reliable sources and you jump to conclusion that it sucks or you shouldn't buy it. For all I care I haven't seen proof from you, on reasons why it sucks. You always were a blabber mouth that has not provided actual information, but your swindiling aggression. If you don't want to get flamed (and I mean from other people) I suggest you provide us reliable facts why the 9500/pro is way better then the 9600 or why the 5900 is better then the 9700/9800.. If you can give us that then we won't have to be standing on this pile of shit. Oh by the way.. Lamer was my name in CS So guess you did a follow up research.

agree all keep saying 5900ultra ownz the 9800pro but u never provide any proof to your post. u will keep on getting flame if u cant provide any reliable date other than your mouth saying nvidia this ati sucks that all hail nvidia the king, long live nvidia. i want nvidia's babies, blah blah....priceless

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Originally posted by AZCA lamer. u should change u name to LAMER Lac

Dude, get over it. Ati cards are better than Nvidia no matter what sort of drivers Nvidia is using. Its no to say Nvidia sucks, but the fact of the matter is that Ati (as it currently stands and will for a long time) can make cards that run on lower clock freqeuncies that out perform Nvidia's. And even if the newest drivers for the fx5900 ultra come, it will marginally be faster than the 9600. thats's pathetic, that a $250 dollar card can out perform a $600 card. Every one knows that since 9700pro came out, Ati has beaten ALL of Nvidia's cards no matter what, and that card is 6months old.

heres some proof of the recent 5600 ultra vs the 9600. notice the 9600 only has 128mb of ram.
http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/...0u/index.x?pg=5
http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/...u/index.x?pg=13

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Originally posted by TheDemon heres some proof of the recent 5600 ultra vs the 9600. notice the 9600 only has 128mb of ram. http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/...0u/index.x?pg=5 http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/...u/index.x?pg=13

Not to mention 9600 beating the 5900 Ultra

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Last edited by DJ Lac on Sep-19-2003 at 18:26

9600 Pro cheap card, see 9500 PRO smoke it. ATI is tricking its customers.

look @ the benchmark graphs, ignore the text.

Last edited by AZCA on Sep-19-2003 at 19:02

5900 ULTRA beats 9800 PRO in every test

best FX drivers: 44.65

Image quality test

Image quality test #2

pricewise, 5900FX is cheaper than 9800Pro

Good luck.

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Originally posted by AZCA http://ixbt.com/video2/r9600pro.shtml look @ the benchmark graphs, ignore the text.

So what does this have to do with the 9600 beating the 5900? All I see his giberish with 9600 pro comparing with the 5600.. And I'm guessing they tweaked it using a program... Cuz the picture says a lot. Maybe you should look on official sources that have a universal language. To me... you speaking in english and giving us a russian site. Tells a lot that your hiding something. Keep it coming.. I want to see more sources because we gave you like more then 10 sources and you understood that. And even though its correct scores that comparison was used on a 3dmark 2001 benchmark.. This is 2003.. and plus back then nvidia had their cheat drivers going to bypass certain things on the 3dmark to make it look better. Your proof is false.. I suggest you get with the times and show us whats now instead of the past which has been proven wrong by a lot of people.

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