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djdawn
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thanks denser.
about that volume problem, that is very strange. Quality is very important to me. I cannot increase the record volume in traktor, cause this set is mostly vinyl, dude.
I recorded to my harddrive with wavelab and then had the level normalized to -1 db before encoding with lame 3.88
That should give you the loudest volume possible, as you will have more clipping when you normalize to 0db. Your the first who noticed something like this, btw.

I just listened to that mp3 and compared it to the Marco V set (Mysteryland) and I didn't notice any difference.
Oh, and David Forbes was in the last Shadowzone update before they went on vacation....


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AndiH
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Regensburg, Germany | GTA #15

quote:
Originally posted by Denser

AndiH...one technical question...with shadow down...where did u get those mp3s on ur sig ?


I get most of my stuff off some ftp, but I can't share the details cause I would be banned...the ftp I know ain't that good...there are better ones but I don't have time to get in touch with these guys

sz did a 'small' update a few days ago btw

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Eugene
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Maryland USA

djdawn, I finally got to listen to your mix, I now have a cable modem so this one was fast for me

I liked it, although probably a little less than the previous ones.

If I were you I'd start the set with something a little more exciting, like #3 with its synth-energy. I'm sorry but the first track just doesn't give you that initial energy rush. Also I noticed you included Ralphie B - Massive; personally I don't think too much of this tune, although everybody here seems to like it

The best ones for me were #3, #4, and "Daydream." "Communication" is a classic.

Regarding the transition at 16:12, I actually think it's fine, but I suggest that someday you try mixing "Daydream" after Moni B - Stripped. These two songs have exactly the same kind of female vocals (maybe the songwriters used the same filters/effects), and as "Stripped" ends ("let's get away... stripped...") "Daydream" begins ("Daydream... daydream..."), it can be just like one song. You can try that and let me know what happens.

Some of the transitions I didn't like because, despite the same BPM, one song feels faster than the other one due to hats/cymbals. These are in the "middle" between kick and snare, and they give you that "utz-utz-utz" sound . If one song has very prominent, loud hats, and the other one doesn't, it will feel like there's a difference in tempo, even though there isn't.

An example: Pulsedriver - Cambodia has almost NO hats, it's just simple kick-snare, whereas Madonna - What It Feels Like for a Girl (Above&Beyond Mix) has very strong, loud hats. I bet if you tried to mix these two at the same BPM, the transition would be pretty bad.

Well, good luck! Thanks for the mix!


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Utopia1278
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great set Dawn keep up the good work bro! cant wait for the next one


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djdawn
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quote:
Originally posted by Eugene

Some of the transitions I didn't like because, despite the same BPM, one song feels faster than the other one due to hats/cymbals. These are in the "middle" between kick and snare, and they give you that "utz-utz-utz" sound . If one song has very prominent, loud hats, and the other one doesn't, it will feel like there's a difference in tempo, even though there isn't.

Thanks for the mix!


thanks for taking the time to write such a long review!
Could you please give me examples for the transitions in which you hear this difference in tempo you're talking about, cause I went through the whole set and couldn't find anything...

The only occasion I could see something like the effect you're talking about is when mixing a track like Hypetrax "Darkside" (Original) or Drugface - Überdruck into a different track, cause these have a "shuffle" to their hats and cymbals, that makes it very difficult to mix...same with the "hard" part of Scot Project - O

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scorpia
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Hey DJ Dawn, i'm listening to your set for the first time, and it sounds great! It's the most hi energy set i've heard in a while, and i like it... im at the 35 min mark right now and so far so good... i'll post some more after i listen to it a few more times...
keep up the good work!

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Big J
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Registered: Jul 2001
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Amazing!!! That´s all i can say.
Most I liked track 18, that hits you like 1m log.

thnx dj dawn!!!

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djdawn
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Originally posted by scorpia
Hey DJ Dawn, i'm listening to your set for the first time, and it sounds great! It's the most hi energy set i've heard in a while, and i like it... im at the 35 min mark right now and so far so good... i'll post some more after i listen to it a few more times...
keep up the good work!

Thanks! I'm still waiting for "some more".....

Thanks to everybody who dl-ed the set and gave me some feedback. It really makes me feel good to see that my work is apreciated. I'll try to deliver my best in the future.

This set will stay up for a couple of days from now, then it will be time for the next Hard-Trance History ID-Contest!
It'll be easier this time

Peace!


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TimeWarp
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Registered: Jan 2001
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I just finished listening to it...
gotta say i like ur style.. hard and fast....
i reaally love ur track selection from tracks 14 to the end... typicall dj scott style.. hard and HARD.haha.
i like it cuz i havent heard many of these tracks.. its nice to hear stuff i havent heard b4.. and oh ya.. i personally love ending mixes with melodic tracks. and u did just that with armin's communication.... goood work man.

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jzmhed1
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Registered: Feb 2001
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god DAMN, your track selection kicks ass

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DJAdamSmith
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Orlando, FL USA

Did you mix this from beginning to end on the tables with no editing? If you did, I'm impressed because that's some pretty fast mixing. I can only get about 10 mixes in on a set that long, and you managed 19!

DJ Adam Smith

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djdawn
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Did you mix this from beginning to end on the tables with no editing? If you did, I'm impressed because that's some pretty fast mixing. I can only get about 10 mixes in on a set that long, and you managed 19!

DJ Adam Smith


Well, I don't consider this FAST mixing. I was gonna talk about this in the "where is the innovation?" thread in the DJ Zone. I don't get it how people make 76 minute mixes with just 9-12 tracks. That means before listening to the mix I know they are mostly mixing intros and outros (where there are only beats). Takes a lot of energy out of the mix and makes mixing boring and too easy. You can have AtomixMP3 do that for you. Don't even need to crossfade...
Sure, you have to practice beatmatching in order to be able to get more tracks in. But everybody is able to practice and should do so when the need is there. I could have packed more tracks in there (like 25-30) but I also want the transitions to sound nice so there is a good "flow" from track to track. This is not about dodgy mixes with the tracks being out of sync but about the song structures which have to be fitted together.
As for your question. This mix was edited at 2 positions, because the transition didn't work out exactly like I wanted it to be. But this is just cause the mix is for listening at home and I'm a perfectionist. If I hear a little mistake over and over again I don't like the mix. But the editing wasn't done to get the beatmatching down. At the Loveparade I played 29 tracks in 90 minutes and I was jumping around all the time besides mixing
ok, rant mode off. hope this helps


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