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Originally posted by montie ttx1's are superior tables and they are cheaper. you can't go wrong with them. you won't go wrong if you get the tech's either tho

lmao, so the TTX1 is an awesome table, get it! but the 1200 is good too, so get that! no wait, the TTX1! I mean, the 1200!

/me knifes himself

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I've heard on other forums about the motor overheating in the ttx when used for long periods of time & w/heavy scratching. The ttx might have more features.. but I know for a fact the build quality isn't as good as the 1200.

The first TT I bought was a TX1, and I hated it. It looks like a toy, it has tons of useless features. Who the hell wants a BPM counter on their TT? +/- 50% pitch control. Useless. Digital readouts for pitch control, all that stuff is just annoying. I played with it for two days, hated it and took it back for my first 1200, which I love.

I've got the SL 1200MK2 and last week i was in a DJ shop and tried some other tables.

You can discus the design, but that is your own opinion.

I first began to set the tonearms and the tonearm of the SL is much better. The SL arm is more stable then the TTX arm.

The torque of the TTX is higher then the torque of a SL, but the difference isn’t that big. Both tables react “nervous” when you’re touching the platter. If you slow it down from +2% and it goes back to +2% the table will go to +2,**%. The TTX is more nervous then a SL, but that’s my feeling and hard to say. You should measure it with eguipment…

The platter: The TTX platter just sucks, my fingers don’t have grip on the platter because it hasn’t got the strobes. I also like the strobes so I can see the pitch difference when I’m beat matching. But the TTX has got a digital speed indicator, so you can read the speed there (remind my remark I made earlier about this thing)


The pitch slider: I don’t like the slider of the MK2, the quartz lock sucks big time*(?), but the MK5 does not have that. TTX also has it, but it’s not as annoying as the lock of a MK2. The TTX has a digital indication of the speed, I think that that is good, but only if the deck reads the speed from the platter and not from the slider!!! (I don’t know how numark has made that)
* some times the quartz lock is annoying, but that’s only if you spin records with a big BPM difference.

The sound: The motor of a SL is the most silent there is. If you listen really well you can hear a buzz. The TTX has a harder buzz, especially when you speed it up or slow it down, but when you’re doing that with a deck then that normally is the one you’re hearing through the headphone…
The damping: I’ve heard lot complaints about the damping of the TTX. When there is a hard long bass it gives a reverb. Off course the SL also has this problem, but not as quick as the TTX.


If I had to choose between these 2 decks I would take the SL. And then I would prefer the MK5, but that is more expensive.
The most important points:
More stable arm and the motor is only a bit nervous!
Don’t forget that the SL is the standard, if you’re going to spin in a club you probably have to spin on SL’s. But the difference between the decks is small so a good DJ can spin on both decks.

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My story in the post above compares the SL 12**MK* and the TTX1.

These tables are good, but there is a better deck now!!!!

This is the one:
Synq XTRM1/Omnitronic DD5250/Akiama DJ4000 Acura/AMDJ HTD4.5/Stanton STR8-150/ST150/Citronic PD45/Reloop RP6000MK5.

A lot of manufacturers make this deck, so I call it “the OEM” (Original Equipment Manifacturer).
These tables are al the same (only the Stanton has another shape and some buttons are on another place) and IMO better then the SL of TTX1.

The OEM has an incredible torque (4,5kg/cm2) and when you slow it down or speed it up it comes back to the original speed really fast and not a bit “nervous”. The slider is also very nice and the tone arm is (almost?) equal to the SL arm.
Some people say that the SL and TTX1 are direct drive, well, then you haven’t seen the OEM yet. Push the start button and it’s on speed in 0,2 sec. If there is a thin record on the deck the platter even accelerates faster then the record it self

When I was spinning on this deck it felt a lot better then a SL and TTX. The motor is superb, the arm is (IMO) as stable as the SL arm.
The only thing that is better on the SL is the buzz of the motor, though it isn’t as loud as the buzz form a TTX1.

And also very important!
The price is much better!!!!!

If there is a deck that can become the standard and kick the SL out the club it will be the OEM!

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The TTX has a digital indication of the speed, I think that that is good, but only if the deck reads the speed from the platter and not from the slider!!! (I don’t know how numark has made that)

If you lift the platter off the TTX1 and have a look inside, you can see three little transistor-like things sitting just underneath where the magnets on the platter sit. These are hall effect sensors, which detect the magnetic field created by the magnets on the platter. So these little puppies tell the TTX1 what position the platter is in. Note that this doesn't affect the readout of pitch, it only changes how fast the little dots run around the outside of the readout. It makes sense in a way, because normally you use a slipmat, and therefore knowing what speed the platter is going at isn't going to help you when the record might be going at a different speed.

Two more differences between the technics and the numark:
+ Key locking: This is a gimmick. If you lock the key and then pitch a record more than 1% you can hear a double beat. Sounds like you can't beatmatch, even with only one record playing. I used it for about 20 seconds then haven't used it since. Shame really.
+ RCA outputs: This is a BIG one! Technics don't amplify the signal from the cartridge, so you have to go all the way from the cart, through the body of the turntable, then usually down to the floor and around all those power cables before finally making it to the inside of your mixer and then getting amplified to a decent level. This means that noise has a lot more chance of getting into the system. TTX1 has RCA outputs, so the signal only goes about 20 cm before being amplified.

Anyway that's my take on things. Your mileage may vary. I love my TTX1, I've used technics and much prefer the TTX1, if only for the digital readout of speed on this one. You can easily pitch a record up or down by using the slider, then go back exactly to where you were before you moved the slider. Ahh well each to their own, I guess :-)

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Holy crap guys, you've tought me sooooo much. props to you folks, I was about to buy the 1200's but ive seen the posts here i think I will get the ttx1's, since i dont have enough money for mdk5, i would rather get the ttx1's save up sell my deck and buy the mdk5 instead of getting the sl1200. anyways thats what I'm thinking after I read all these posts. thnx guys

I'm a Technics man.
If it holds pitch and works, its all good.

I have the 1200 m3ds and they dont have the pitch lock notch at all. they have a little reset button istead. anyways, i love my 1200s and dont think i will ever trade them.

I always suggest Technics to anyone considering buying turntables, but I haven't run into this question before.

I don't see much reason to buy Technics if you are running the Numark TTXs, as Numark (finally) came out with a turntable that is very competitive with the Techs. I didn't buy the Numarks at the time I made my purchase because:

a) Everyone told me to buy Techs

b) The Techs have a long, proven history of durability, reliability, etc. The Numark TTXs were new on the scene at that point (a little under a year ago), so they were a real unknown.

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