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fuct4less
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Registered: May 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Galapidate
You claim you have nothing against the Jews but you don't think the Jews have ae right to self-determination? You're fucked up


Someone ban this guy


i think he was being sarcastic.


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TranceGiant
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Dunno

quote:
Originally posted by Galapidate


funny what? funny like a clown? am I here to amuse you, is that what you say? That I'm here to fucking amuse you?!

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DJBARON
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interesting post...

kinda getting wacky here though
i think some bans are necessary for palestinian dude
sprouting some mean stuff


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Old Post Sep-30-2003 22:27  Israel
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tathi
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
yet another "urban legend".
We all know who created the term "antisemitism", when, and for what reason. So stop with the "arabs are also semites" bullshitting for once. thanks.

hah, have a look at the dictionary you uneducated fool

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Yoepus
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speaking of hate...

lets look at the dicitionary however, as we are uneducated fools:

OED v2.0

anit-semitism: Theory, action, or practice directed against the Jews. Hence anti-Semite, one who is hostile or opposed to the Jews; anti-Semitic a.


dictionary.com:
an·ti-Sem·i·tism (nt-sm-tzm, nt-)
n.
1.Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2.Discrimination against Jews



so is it true, does the truth hurt sometimes?

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tathi
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A lesson in linguistics

Good work, you successfully discriminated between the denotation you find advantageous and that which accompany it.

quote:
Dictionary.com

anti-semitic:

adj 1: relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism; hating Jews
2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

Anti-Semitism \An`ti-Sem"i*tism\, n. Opposition to, or hatred of, Semites, esp. Jews. --

Semites: A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.


anti as a prefix denotes opposition to the conjunctive affix Semite

There is no doubt that anti-semitism pertains especially to the creators of the concept, but the word is not circumscribed to the jewish race, anti-hebrew – anti-jew would be.

you're indeed anti-semantic yoepus ;P

Disinformation isn't a contemporary concept, subliminal messages, no matter how subtle hold great influence over you frail nationalists. An example of an elusive transposition includes Jihad; a word completely misconstrued to serve insidious means

quote:
so is it true, does the truth hurt sometimes?

I believe intelligence and skepticism of consensus is an immunity. I am not fearful of truth, I am a great advocate of the truth no matter how challenging it may be to my ideals, and I have never been hurt by it.

I only wish i could be there when your own irrefutable epiphany marks the greatest epoch of your life in which you realise your own spurious ideals are nothing more than subtle prevarications

I strongly suggest you get a hold of the following book yoepus:
Dialogue aux Enfers entre Montesquieu and Machiavelli

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DJBARON
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Re: A lesson in linguistics

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
Disinformation isn't a contemporary concept, subliminal messages, no matter how subtle hold great influence over you frail nationalists. An example of an elusive transposition includes Jihad; a word completely misconstrued to serve insidious means


I believe intelligence and skepticism of consensus is an immunity. I am not fearful of truth, I am a great advocate of the truth no matter how challenging it may be to my ideals, and I have never been hurt by it.

I only wish i could be there when your own irrefutable epiphany marks the greatest epoch of your life in which you realise your own spurious ideals are nothing more than subtle prevarications

I strongly suggest you get a hold of the following book yoepus:
Dialogue aux Enfers entre Montesquieu and Machiavelli


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Old Post Oct-01-2003 11:15  Israel
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TranceGiant
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Jester

@ "uneducated fool"


Just as I suspected, you're getting pathetic.
For the heck ot it I looked for "antisemitsm" in google resulting in links which dealt with the hatred towards Jews exclusively. As hard as I tried, I just didn't find one indication for this word to refer to Arabic people as well.
The term "antisemitism" exists for no longer than 200 years. It was created at some point in the later 19th century in Europe. How many of the " Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians" lived back then? I'm sure it described the anti-Babylonian sentiments at the height of Eruopean nationalism


Creating the term "Antisemitsm" by those who "practiced" it, documents the new approach Jew-haters were taking. While for thousand years Jews were discriminated against for religious reasons (hence "Antijudaism" ) the hatred was now justified by racist motives. This new approach was pseudo-scientifical coinciding with the general racist spirit of nationalist and colonialist Europe and the emancipation of the Jews at this time. Later it was adopted by the Nazi regime which kept devolping these racist theories.

It's more than clear that neither in the past, nor today Antisemitism applies to Arabs or any other "semitic" people. The word itself is deceptive and hypocritical, merely an attempt to make hatred against Jews political correct in the 19th century.

Of course, tathi, you can come and dissect the word in order to "logically" prove otherwise. If this gives you any satisfaction, so be it. You can also say that Banana really means Apple. Just keep in mind that language is not mathematics. If it is a general consensus to use this word this way (Oxford dictionary definition f.e.), and if researching and investigating its roots leads to the same conclusion, then I might have been right after all.

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tathi
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refute! refute! dictionary.com is anti-semitic! everybody is anti-semitic! this idiot goyim is anti-semitic! refute!

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
- Arthur Schopenhauer

refute!

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TranceGiant
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quote:
Originally posted by tathi
refute! refute! dictionary.com is anti-semitic! everybody is anti-semitic! this idiot goyim is anti-semitic! refute!

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
- Arthur Schopenhauer

refute!


I'm happy you admitted defeat and saved both of us any more wasted time



So how's the weather in Sidney today?

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tathi
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hehe defeat?

quote:
Of course, tathi, you can come and dissect the word in order to "logically" prove otherwise. If this gives you any satisfaction, so be it.

if refuting logic gives you satisfaction, so be it

quote:
You can also say that Banana really means Apple.

that really is a great analogy, it completely delineates your concept of "logic"

quote:
Just keep in mind that language is not mathematics. If it is a general consensus to use this word this way

The general consensus? Ahhh the masses, completely omniscient and au courant, never doubt the masses maxims, they are absolute truths.

I suggest you also read Dialogue aux Enfers entre Montesquieu and Machiavelli.

quote:
and if researching and investigating its roots leads to the same conclusion, then I might have been right after all.

hehe gw, i can also cut and paste off sites like honestreporting, if anything contradicts my ideals, its racist, anti-semitic, lies! all lies!

quote:
So how's the weather in Sidney today?

shithouse today ;/


quote:
Gilbert Keith Chesterton
You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it.


wtf is wrong with this site. so laggy!

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TranceGiant
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quote:
Originally posted by tathi

if refuting logic gives you satisfaction, so be it


that really is a great analogy, it completely delineates your concept of "logic"


The general consensus? Ahhh the masses, completely omniscient and au courant, never doubt the masses maxims, they are absolute truths.

I suggest you also read Dialogue aux Enfers entre Montesquieu and Machiavelli.


hehe gw, i can also cut and paste off sites like honestreporting, if anything contradicts my ideals, its racist, anti-semitic, lies! all lies!


shithouse today ;/





*yawn*

yes, defeat.

I was convinced you'd pick this specific statement (about the general consensus) and generalize. Very shallow. I might agree with you that relying on what the majority thinks is not the brightest idea (just look at the overwhelming, misinformed anti-Israeli sentiments ) but in language you'll have to accept the genral consensus unless you wanna speak languages of your own, talking to yourself! Also, it's not merely "general consensus" but a clear definition.
What you did was artifical construction justified by "logic" totally ignoring (you still did, seeing that you didnt respond to one point about the word's history) the very motive behind the creation of the word. It is therefore, in a sense, calling bananas apples.

"hehe gw, i can also cut and paste off sites like honestreporting, if anything contradicts my ideals, its racist, anti-semitic, lies! all lies!"

Have not the slightest idea what you're talking about. Can't have anything to do with me and what I said.

Again I ask: What sort of satisfaction does this denial give you? Does it hurt you that a term which theoretically applies to others as well is occupied by Jews only? Believe me when I say that Jewish people would have preferred if it hadn't had anything to do with them. Too bad no1 built a time machine yet.

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